• @Buffalox
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    76 months ago

    In theory is not the same as actually being able to do it, which was what he clearly claimed saying: And we can do that NOW.

    • @[email protected]
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      -66 months ago

      Its only not possible on consumer models because of restrictions put in place by tesla.

      As evidenced by Elon mode

      A tesla can drive its self, but it doesnt because of regulatory/safety/liability reasons

      • @Buffalox
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        56 months ago

        No it was not, we have testimony from employees that FSD wasn’t even close to what Musk claimed. And it can’t even do it today.
        Just because you can flip a switch that says FSD doesn’t mean it works.

        • @[email protected]
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          -56 months ago

          Again, we’re arguing about the definition of “working” which was my original point.

          Can it self drive? yes

          Should it? no

          • @[email protected]
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            66 months ago

            That argument is stupid. My robot lawn mower “can drive itself” but it can’t follow traffic rules and would crash after a while if set to drive on its own in a road. Just as a Tesla. What Musk was implying was “it can drive itself without violating traffic rules and causing crashes” and clearly it can’t.

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              6 months ago

              I think FSD is further along than you think it is.

              certainly a lot further than the kind of “self driving” present in your standard robotic lawn mower

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                Well yes, but the end result after driving unattended in traffic for a while is the same still, that’s the point. You could argue that a FSD Tesla makes it a bit further, I guess that’s true but still it’s far from what Elon was selling to the people.

              • @[email protected]
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                06 months ago

                I think FSD is further along than you think it is.

                This is the issue with all these debates currently. The people arguing against FSD are totally unaware of how far it has come since just a few months ago. They have already made up their minds based on how much it sucked a year ago and they’re under the illusion that it’s at best just marginally better today. I love watching the YouTube channel CYBRLFT and seeing people’s minds getting blown in real time when they realize that what they’ve heard on the news and on social media is so far from the reality.

                Is it perfect? No. Is it unbelieveably good? Yes.

                • @[email protected]B
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                  16 months ago

                  Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

                  CYBRLFT

                  Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

                  I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.

          • @Buffalox
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            Can it self drive? yes No

            That’s like saying a car with cruise control can self drive. Although FSD is more sophisticated, it still can’t.
            The Tesla cannot self drive by any reasonable meaning of the term.
            Tesla also calls it assisted self driving now. And that’s obviously not because it works now, which even now 8 years later it doesn’t.