Not exactly as funny meme as I would like it to be, but I just found out about that feature after having to hold the power button due to a frozen system countless times, and I had to tell someone.

    • boredsquirrel
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      This is great! Why doesnt distros use this by default???

      Just put plasmashell and a few in there and you will have a working oom killer. Finally.

      I will install this the first thing tomorrow

      Wait… Fedora has this since quite a while, strange.

      • @[email protected]
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        137 months ago

        Because if i’m rendering on blender on my lower end PC with expected freezes but it auto kills the render?

          • @[email protected]
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            97 months ago

            Not niche there can be times when you want to run something heavy and it auto kills the exact thing you are trying to run. You have a 1gb ram device and it kills everything? Thats undesirable

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              Hm… the process itself should not take that much RAM. I dont know if normally the OS should assign the max RAM to the program.

              But this should not happen and I wonder how “just letting it freeze” works

              • @[email protected]
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                It makes system unresponsive, true. But its still running the main things, the render or decompressing or whatever. So it eventually unfreezes when it completes, by giving other programs(including GUI) back the CPU and ram.

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                  Ok so killing is worse than just keeping alive.

                  This is a fair point.

                  I dont know a good solution for this, not killing but freezing is likely the best.

                  I dont know

                  • @[email protected]
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                    17 months ago

                    Preferences matter too. Some like their progrms to be killed. Some may want it to run anyway however possible

            • Brickardo
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              Your usual pal won’t be running Blender, they’re going to be stumbling their way through LibreOffice and a browser. Massive echo chamber right there.

          • @Ptsf
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            We do not break userspace in this household young man.

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        Why doesnt distros use this by default???

        Nohang has some explanations to this.

        I.e. kernel devs are ignorant to the issue of oomkiller not working as intended on desktop.

        Edit: Lkml is down.

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        Wasn’t oomd the facebook thing for complicated server setups?

        edit: yeah, for large data centers. Imho overengineered for single user desktop sessions. Earlyoom is simple and tiny.

    • @marcos
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      Just decrease your swap space.

      Unless you have an unusual system, there’s no reason to have several GB of swap.

      • Eager Eagle
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        that won’t solve the system unresponsiveness

        • @marcos
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          Have you tried?

          Because it does.

          • Eager Eagle
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            yes, even turning swap off entirely doesn’t solve it. It doesn’t take much to find people reporting a similar experience.

      • @barsquid
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        Is hibernate no longer a thing? I thought that needed swap.

        • @marcos
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          Actually, not much.

          It always had reliability issues with bad hardware, and computers boot incredibly quickly nowadays. But yeah, it requires swap, and if you want it, there’s a sibling answer here about sawppiness.