Can you like a source who’s method isn’t quick and dirty polls by a company who makes whatever polls there donors want and whose founder didn’t get arrested last election for using his companies polls to try and influence election results so their literal bets on elections would pay off?
Bonus points if the founder also didn’t solicite their employees to enter an illegal straw donor scheme.
The poll your likely referencing compared pro-Israel moderates to Biden.
All it shows is the people dont just not want Biden, they don’t want Biden because of his policy stances and they don’t want someone else with the same conservative policy
in which 50% of people are (unfortunately, but accurately) moderates?
Do you think it’s easier to convince 50% of Dems to vote for more than they want, or for less than they want?
And that’s not even getting into how even Republicans agree with progressive policy.
The policy is popular. But with moderate Dems, republicans, and pretty much all of mainstream media fearmingering about progress, people won’t label themselves progressive even though they agree with the platform.
So who’s your candidate
I hate how people phrase that like anyone saying Biden is a stupid risk, are just saying that because they have a favorite candidate…
Anyone that’s not pro-genocide, is pro-worker, and not trump would have a walkin victory.
You asked for one specific person, so AOC has the best chance to stop trump in my opinion.
She’s young, charismatic, a great public speaker, and can flip red states like Obama in 08 due to those traits.
You asked for one specific person, so AOC has the best chance to stop trump in my opinion.
… her national favorability is literally worse than Biden’s. And it would only get worse with the right-wing media brigade capitalizing on all this time they’ve spent demonizing her.
I don’t know why this illusion persists that the US is secretly majority left-wing and only voting in Republicans and moderate Democrats all the goddamn time for fucking funsies.
You are in a tiny tiny echo chamber if you think she’s got a chance. This election will come down to firmly purple swing states, and literally not a single one would swing blue for such a divisive candidate. (Not even saying she’s divisive for good reason, just that she objectively is when you look at public sentiment).
Biden is so unfortunately the best chance to avoid Trump, and he’s not even a great chance.
This election will come down to firmly purple swing states, and literally not a single one would swing blue for such a divisive candidate. (Not even saying she’s divisive for good reason, just that she objectively is when you look at public sentiment).
2008 Obama…
Our first Black president. Lots of “moderates” said the same things you’re saying now.
Then he flipped a bunch of red states. Not just purple. Solid red states voting for a young progressive minority.
And the vast majority of the electorate is even more conservative now, while modern progressives have less broad party support than Obama did. Obama had also been working on and receiving POTUS chatter for years before throwing his hat in. There’s just no one like that in today’s party.
It’s not 2008, and a comparison of Obama’s chances then with someone sliding into the race this late is not based in reality. I really wish it was, but there is no Obama in today’s DRC, and if there was, his campaign would still be starting 10 steps back to suddenly enter the race. I don’t like it any more than the next guy, but I’m not gonna advocate for even worse chances against Trump.
Can you like a source who’s method isn’t quick and dirty polls by a company who makes whatever polls there donors want and whose founder didn’t get arrested last election for using his companies polls to try and influence election results so their literal bets on elections would pay off?
Bonus points if the founder also didn’t solicite their employees to enter an illegal straw donor scheme.
Hint:
Not from this absolute shit show
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_for_Progress
Quick edit:
The poll your likely referencing compared pro-Israel moderates to Biden.
All it shows is the people dont just not want Biden, they don’t want Biden because of his policy stances and they don’t want someone else with the same conservative policy
So who’s your candidate, and how would they win enough votes from a major party in which 50+% of people are (unfortunately, but accurately) moderates?
Do you think it’s easier to convince 50% of Dems to vote for more than they want, or for less than they want?
And that’s not even getting into how even Republicans agree with progressive policy.
The policy is popular. But with moderate Dems, republicans, and pretty much all of mainstream media fearmingering about progress, people won’t label themselves progressive even though they agree with the platform.
I hate how people phrase that like anyone saying Biden is a stupid risk, are just saying that because they have a favorite candidate…
Anyone that’s not pro-genocide, is pro-worker, and not trump would have a walkin victory.
You asked for one specific person, so AOC has the best chance to stop trump in my opinion.
She’s young, charismatic, a great public speaker, and can flip red states like Obama in 08 due to those traits.
… her national favorability is literally worse than Biden’s. And it would only get worse with the right-wing media brigade capitalizing on all this time they’ve spent demonizing her.
I don’t know why this illusion persists that the US is secretly majority left-wing and only voting in Republicans and moderate Democrats all the goddamn time for fucking funsies.
You are in a tiny tiny echo chamber if you think she’s got a chance. This election will come down to firmly purple swing states, and literally not a single one would swing blue for such a divisive candidate. (Not even saying she’s divisive for good reason, just that she objectively is when you look at public sentiment).
Biden is so unfortunately the best chance to avoid Trump, and he’s not even a great chance.
2008 Obama…
Our first Black president. Lots of “moderates” said the same things you’re saying now.
Then he flipped a bunch of red states. Not just purple. Solid red states voting for a young progressive minority.
And the vast majority of the electorate is even more conservative now, while modern progressives have less broad party support than Obama did. Obama had also been working on and receiving POTUS chatter for years before throwing his hat in. There’s just no one like that in today’s party.
It’s not 2008, and a comparison of Obama’s chances then with someone sliding into the race this late is not based in reality. I really wish it was, but there is no Obama in today’s DRC, and if there was, his campaign would still be starting 10 steps back to suddenly enter the race. I don’t like it any more than the next guy, but I’m not gonna advocate for even worse chances against Trump.
I’m not taking that as fact without a decent source.
https://www.axios.com/2024/06/13/trump-election-young-voters-polling
Ok…
But that graph on that article doesn’t show:
Which, already is an incredibly vague statement. But the timeline of the graph shows literally the opposite
Why did you just link an article and not reference the specific part you’re referring to?