• @yetiftw
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    -314 months ago

    not saying you’re wrong, but that is a whataboutism

    • @chuckleslord
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      No, it isn’t. Whataboutism is pointing to a different wrong as a way to dismiss a currently discussed wrong. This is using someone’s past actions as a reason they shouldn’t be trusted in their current statement. It’s a legitimate attack on the speaker’s ethos.

      • @yetiftw
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        -234 months ago

        but it functions as a whataboutism. it doesn’t address the original concerns of the statement. instead it uses an ad hominem attach to discredit the argument

        • @Fedizen
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          84 months ago

          If this were a debate he’s making an argument that he’s denied the underlying principle of: eg arguing the “sky is blue” after saying “blue doesn’t exist”. I’m pointing out that this is a nonsensical statement in the context it was given.

          • @yetiftw
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            -174 months ago

            how is a concern about upending precedent a nonsensical statement? the source of an argument does not impact its validity as a point

            • @Fedizen
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              74 months ago

              The context makes the statement ironic and unserious.

    • @OnlyJabs
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      144 months ago

      This is not a whataboutism, this is calling someone out, and their party out, for their hypocrisy.

      • @yetiftw
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        -214 months ago

        but it functions as a whataboutism. it doesn’t address the original concerns of the statement. instead it uses an ad hominem attach to discredit the argument

        • @ChronosTriggerWarning
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          And your whining about a whataboutism is itself a red herring. It’s dragging the point away from what it was originally.

        • @[email protected]
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          44 months ago

          it doesn’t address the original concerns of the statement

          Yes, it does. The statements concerns were bullshit fakery, as proven by the points given.