• @LovableSidekick
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    Kind of yeah, but Gene Roddenberry used allegories like the half black and half white dudes who hated each other - which took more effort than having characters just walk around in the present saying, “Wow, look at all the social injustice.”

      • Captain Aggravated
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        2213 hours ago

        Roddenberry was both a genuinely progressive guy and an extremely 20th century man. “In the future we’re going to cure disease and hunger and everyone of all races and creeds will work together there’s gonna be a black woman, an asian guy, a Russian and an alien with funny ears on the bridge all working as a team and the women will all wear wrist length gogo dresses and there’s gonna be an episode where the crew is utterly baffled at the very concept of racism. We’re gonna paint some actors with half of their faces white and half of their faces black and they’re gonna be really horrible to each other and when asked why they’re gonna say “They’re white on the left side and we’re white on the right side” and it’s gonna make racism sound really dumb.”

        I struggle to have a problem with a guy whose message is “Systematic hatred is extremely bad and stupid, let’s look at sexy legs instead.”

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          As transparent as Gene’s little parables were, I vastly prefer that method of social commentary over just saying “They certainly were unenlightened in the early 21st century weren’t they - shame on them!”

          • Captain Aggravated
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            410 hours ago

            I haven’t watched any Star Trek since Enterprise. Are they worse at it now? It has been a long road getting form there to here.

            • @LovableSidekick
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              16 hours ago

              IMO Picard season 1 is fantastic and season 2 has some embarrassingly awkward social justice preaching but a good story about the Borg queen. Haven’t seen season 3 or Below Decks yet.

        • @Thebeardedsinglemalt
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          Let’s talk about all the social injustice in the world while all positions of authority are held by white dudes.

          • @grue
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            78 hours ago

            He tried to put a woman in a position of authority (first officer) but the studio shot him down.

    • @[email protected]
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      cough mark of gideon cough

      Hey, i’m an old fart and guess how many times i heard people say that exact same shit about TNG? The pussy version of trek, nothing like its predecessor, all they do is talk about their emotions!

      • @LovableSidekick
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        711 hours ago

        I’m an old fart too. I had a friend who said all they did on TNG was sit up straight and say, “Engage.”

        • I Cast Fist
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          Your friend clearly does not appreciate the Picard maneuver of straightening the shirt, or the Riker maneuver of throwing one leg over the chair to sit

    • Flying SquidM
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      915 hours ago

      Because that’s what you had to do to get past the executives and the censors in the 1960s.

      Just like how “Last Train to Clarksville” is about Vietnam.

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        Just like how “Last Train to Clarksville” is about Vietnam.

        TIL. That is a really subtle reference (at least from the perspective of somebody born a couple of decades after the fact, anyway).

        • Flying SquidM
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          Yeah, but the executives were terrified of any and all conflict. That’s why so many shows of that era are incredibly bland.

    • @someguy3
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      That was an allegory??? (/s)