• @tekato
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    41 month ago

    Everybody knows how to produce the chips. The problem is getting your hands on new ASML machines without the USA finding out.

    • @[email protected]
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      1 month ago

      Exactly. It takes tens of thousands of discrete pieces of technology from hundreds of companies in 30+ countries to put a fab together. If you are missing a piece, no fab for you. So yes, if you can manage to block some part of that chain, you can effectively block that fab from being built.

      • @[email protected]
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        31 month ago

        That argument makes more sense, but manufacturing is their strength. How many parts of ASML are actually done outside Asia? I don’t know honestly but as we manufacture most electronics and tools there, the only option to hide technology from China for US is working exclusively with Taiwan (Korea and Japan maybe but expensive) to make those.

        • @conicalscientist
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          21 month ago

          That’s why Chinas manufacturing is being targeted too. Otherwise they will inevitably develop the process for bleeding edge in house chip fabrication. Technology is only a matter of time. The US is trying to stall any way they can.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 month ago

          A lot. Some of the most important ones are Netherlands and UK. They come from all over Europe, Asia, and North America.