Stolen from @vmstan
More analysis from @wiredfire:
It’s nothing to do with [difficulties in using multiple platforms]. It’s to do with the massive backlash they got on Fedi for their CEO being all Trumpy and somewhat horrible right wing. So they’ve run away because they were made to feel unwelcome on account of us not letting their BS fly.
Original screenshot is of the bio of https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy and wasn’t a post (that confused me for a sec).
Oh do tell me more about how trump and musk aren’t fascists!
The CEO agreed with one statement from Trump (which is often misquated as well) and doubled down on it and is generally an idiot.
But that doesn’t mean they support Trump (or Musk). I know the US politics has been changing and removing the ability to look for compromises, but in the rest of the democtatic world agreeing with one statement from a person or party doesn’t mean you agree with their entire political agenda.
Only use Proton with your own domain so you can switch, but there aren’t that many other good options and none of them offer the same protection the Swiss law does.
Protons biggest blunder of being able to pass it off as the opinions of one CEO was doubling down and going further into their thoughts on US politics from their Proton reddit account. Then editing and deleting comments when their attempts at damage control failed.
https://archive.ph/quYyb
That’s the most interesting thing about all this. That they felt compelled enough to speak on it and then just dug themselves in further. And that’s their attempt at a palatable mainstream explanation. So it is intriguing wondering about what they actually believe.
At this point they’d be better off saying we don’t know anything about US politics we were out of our depth and trying to market ourselves to Americans saying things that we believed made us sound good. But in the end we are Switzerland based company not a US one.
I have seen that comment as well and yeah they dug themselves further. They where an idiot for doing that if they are trying to stay impartial, heck they are idiot for going into into it in the first place. Pretty sure they just have a terrible communications department.
However, most of the world sees politics differently than the two-party system the US has and it is almost never so toxic as it is with the US. Just because you agree with one statement doesn’t mean you agree with all statements of the specific person/party. I feel like a lot of people in the US are forgetting that.
Rest of the world sees the US as a country that is getting closer to the Russians and alienating their former allies like Canada, Mexico, UK, and EU. So make of it what you will when it comes to whether endorsement of the US would be seen positively in other international markets Proton is trying to reach. There’s a growing blanket dislike of the US with no care for parties.
Protons best move is stopping with US centric topics which looking at their socials has been their main marketing focus. Focus on the fact that they are Switzerland instead of so desperately attaching themselves to the US in a world that is seeing more anti US sentiment grow. Which after their blunder with their CEO is not going to run well at all anyways being perceived as disingenuous by critics.
Let memory of US fade when it comes to Proton. That’s what I’d recommend to their marketing team.
Also got curious and looked more into Andy Yen, and he did schooling in the US going to Caltech and Harvard. It seems when it comes to Switzerland it was chosen as a place to start Proton, so unsure if he had ties to the country before hand. So I don’t think the whole he is some foreigner who is completely clueless about American politics can be used as an excuse, and certainly explains the very US centric approach of the company’s marketing. Background would suggests this is someone at the very least well aware of American politics and spent a significant time there immersed in the culture.
A “privacy-focused” company is choosing to stop using the open source social media site in favor of one run by a guy who gives Nazi salutes. There’s no positive spin to it.
Nope there isn’t, is the owner of Reddit also doing Nazi salute’s? Cause I missed that one.
So, you’re so high on outrage that you can’t even understand the context of a comment.
From the OP:
Is there literally a single shred of evidence that they stopped posting on Mastodon because it wasn’t fascist enough for them.
So, do tell me how you’re so confident that proton left Mastodon because it wasn’t fascist enough.
You can’t, because it’s a nonsense fact-free accusation. This kind of ignorance, where reality isn’t as important as spinning a situation to “own the other side”, is how we got the MAGA movement.
Rather than engaging in reality you’re contributing to the spread of bullshit because it’s bullshit that you personally enjoy.
Do better.
Nobody thinks that they chose Twitter FOR the fascism but they’re absolutely siding with the fascists. Elon Musk makes money off their presence on X.com, end of story.
Crazy how Lemmy went nuts at the thought of anyone staying on Twitter but are tripping over themselves to defend the Proton guy.
Maybe @protonprivacy can post on Mastodon to rebut OP
You’re not required to rebut baseless allegations made by faceless people on the Internet.
You are here doing it so I guess we will never know. Time to move on.