• @iopq
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    I don’t think we should give away weapons to Israel, but why should sales be blocked? Israel has a right to defend itself.

    • barnaclebutt
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      It’s actually just a limitation of the weapon system. Unfortunately, they switched to the foreskin guidance systems.

    • @o_arguido
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      Troll detected. Could be an incel too.

      Don’t feed anyway.

    • Pennomi
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      4417 hours ago

      I think what they’ve done is far more than merely defending themselves.

      Yes, Hamas is evil and did heinous things to the Israeli people, but the response was disproportionate and targeted civilians. Even the lowest estimates show that one in every fifty people in Gaza have been killed, and that number includes mostly women and children, not combatants. Heck, other estimates show nearly double that death toll.

      And let’s not even start on the forced displacement of almost a million (!!!) people.

      • @halcyoncmdr
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        3416 hours ago

        Don’t forget the public admission from Israel that they want to kill everyone in Gaza that doesn’t leave.

      • @PugJesus
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        Yes, Hamas is evil and did heinous things to the Israeli people, but the response was disproportionate and targeted civilians. Even the lowest estimates show that one in every fifty people in Gaza have been killed, and that number includes mostly women and children, not combatants. Heck, other estimates show nearly double that death toll.

        This. It goes far beyond reckless, far beyond callous; it’s literal genocide.

      • @[email protected]
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        1015 hours ago

        My friend the real death toll could be ten times the 40k killed I’m being told by the media. I don’t know, I’ve never been there. Everything is so fucked it’s hard to know who to believe.

        • @x00z
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          The UN has published the estimated deaths to be at least 200k+ because of famine and the lack of medical care.

          • Humanitarian aid was blocked
          • Food trucks were stopped
          • Hospitals are bombed

          That’s a Genocide.

          • Pennomi
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            25 hours ago

            Oh yeah, I’m using very low numbers (ie. just the bodies who have been identified) so there’s little room for argument. The actual death toll is unknowable because it’s so large.

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            Oh yeah, no doubt about it. I just can’t ever know how many bodies are under the remains of their buildings. I imagine that could even be a conservative number. I doubt they were doing a census.

            It’s making me sick thinking about it every day and I’m so privileged to even have the luxury of giving a shit.

    • NoneOfUrBusiness
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      To add to what the other guy said: As Hamas is an insurgency working in territory that Israel is illegally occupying, Israel does not in fact have a right to defend itself. It has no right to do anything except get the fuck out of Gaza (including its territorial waters and airspace).

    • @[email protected]
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      The money for these “sales” is aid from the US government.

      Israel is unique in that they are the only country that gets its aid from the US government on January 1st, with interest, in cash. They have to use a part of it on American weapons and the rest they just get in cash.

      I’m sure Sanders also has a bill or intentions to stop that, but that would be a separate bill.

      • @iopq
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        Then don’t give it to them for free