• Pennomi
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    4313 hours ago

    I think what they’ve done is far more than merely defending themselves.

    Yes, Hamas is evil and did heinous things to the Israeli people, but the response was disproportionate and targeted civilians. Even the lowest estimates show that one in every fifty people in Gaza have been killed, and that number includes mostly women and children, not combatants. Heck, other estimates show nearly double that death toll.

    And let’s not even start on the forced displacement of almost a million (!!!) people.

    • @halcyoncmdr
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      3313 hours ago

      Don’t forget the public admission from Israel that they want to kill everyone in Gaza that doesn’t leave.

    • @PugJesus
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      2313 hours ago

      Yes, Hamas is evil and did heinous things to the Israeli people, but the response was disproportionate and targeted civilians. Even the lowest estimates show that one in every fifty people in Gaza have been killed, and that number includes mostly women and children, not combatants. Heck, other estimates show nearly double that death toll.

      This. It goes far beyond reckless, far beyond callous; it’s literal genocide.

    • @[email protected]
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      912 hours ago

      My friend the real death toll could be ten times the 40k killed I’m being told by the media. I don’t know, I’ve never been there. Everything is so fucked it’s hard to know who to believe.

      • @x00z
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        2112 hours ago

        The UN has published the estimated deaths to be at least 200k+ because of famine and the lack of medical care.

        • Humanitarian aid was blocked
        • Food trucks were stopped
        • Hospitals are bombed

        That’s a Genocide.

        • Pennomi
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          12 hours ago

          Oh yeah, I’m using very low numbers (ie. just the bodies who have been identified) so there’s little room for argument. The actual death toll is unknowable because it’s so large.

        • @[email protected]
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          Oh yeah, no doubt about it. I just can’t ever know how many bodies are under the remains of their buildings. I imagine that could even be a conservative number. I doubt they were doing a census.

          It’s making me sick thinking about it every day and I’m so privileged to even have the luxury of giving a shit.