• Ace
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    The one thing I’m uneasy about with these extremely detailed alt-text descriptions is that it seems like a treasure trove of training data for AI. The main thing holding back image generation is access to well-labelled images. I know it’s against ToS to scrape them but that doesn’t mean companies can’t, just that they shouldn’t. Between here and mastadon/etc there’s a decent number of very well-labelled images.

    • Pennomi
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      1018 hours ago

      The AI ship has already sailed. No need to harm real humans because somebody might train an AI on your data.

    • @ilinamorato
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      258 hours ago

      Honestly I think that sort of training is largely already over. The datasets already exist (have for over a decade now), and are largely self-training at this point. Any training on new images is going to be done by looking at captions under news images, or through crawling videos with voiceovers. I don’t think this is a going concern anymore.

      And, incidentally, that kind of dataset just isn’t very valuable to AI companies. Most of the use they’re going to get is in being able to create accessible image descriptions for visually-disabled people anyway; they don’t really have a lot more value for generative diffusion models beyond the image itself, since the aforementioned image description models are so good.

      In short, I really strongly believe that this isn’t a reason to not alt-text your images.

        • @ilinamorato
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          It sort of can. Firefox is using a small language model to do just that, in one of the more useful accessibility implementations of machine learning. But it’s never going to be capable of the context that human alt text, from the uploader, can give.

    • flamingos-cant
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      8 hours ago

      AI training data mostly comes from giving exploited Kenyans PTSD, alt-text becoming a common thing on social media came quite a bit after these AI models got their start.

    • @[email protected]
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      27 hours ago

      Just be sure not to specify how many fingers, or thumbs, or toes, or that the two shown are opposites L/R. Nor anything about how clown faces are designed.

    • @LePoisson
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      What do you think is creating all those descriptions?