These things happen in war unfortunately.
When there are attacks with 500+ of drones and many missiles per day with only a handful of civilian casualties it’s pretty clear that they are not ‘targeting civilians and wanting to make as many casualties as possible’ as the western propaganda claim.
Unlike ukrainians that deliberately target civilian infrastructure, from schools to hospitals.
The comment @[email protected] was replying was about “doing them a favor”. I don’t think any sane Ukrainian would say “thanks” for what Russia is doing.
Unlike ukrainians that deliberately target civilian infrastructure, from schools to hospitals.
It’s a bit of a stretch. Both sides did similar things.
As I said, the vast number of drones/missiles vs the few civilian casualties they make.
While ukros often bomb schools,hospitals and high rise buildings.
But the western media doesn’t report that.
Only last week they killed 21 kids in a student dormitory.
And all the news here was crying about the reaction strikes from Russia the next day.
Civilian houses in Ukraine are hit every day. Here is a house in Konop from today, for example:
The strike on the student dormitory sucks, but do you think Ukraine hasn’t gone through things like this?
Here is a house in Dnipro from June 2 (15 deaths) for example:
What makes you think that Ukraine does that on purpose, and Russia by accident?
The Dnipro attack was a direct response to the targeting of the student house I mentioned.
656 long-range drones and 73 missiles were used.
As I said that with that much firepower only one house as collateral damage is pretty impressive, and if that happens they are usually they are next to a military target, and not deliberately targeted. The ukros killed 8 people that day in a drone attack on a bus BTW.
These targets can’t be justified, neither can the frequent buildings and schools hit in Russia or Donetsk and Luhansk in purely residential areas.
And I suspect the next one is the nazi town of Konotop, not Konop.
That name is well known to me.
Meet the mayor of that cute town:
So your anecdotal collateral damage versus the systematic and deliberate attacks on civilians aren’t comparable in the least.
Not even mentioning the insane attacks on a nuclear plant or dams. Immense war crimes.
As I said that with that much firepower only one house as collateral damage is pretty impressive,
I didn’t say it was a single house. Most of the mentioned attack affected Kiev, there were a ton of casualties. One of the houses even got a strike for the second time while it was on fire. I can’t attach a video here, but pretty sure you can google this one.
They regularly have military there in civilian infrastructure which makes it a legitimate target.
I didn’t say this specific one was on purpose. I just showed an example of how often these things could happen. Both sides always say there was a military target, it’s just not practical media-wise to admit things like that.
So your anecdotal collateral damage versus the systematic and deliberate attacks on civilians aren’t comparable in the least.
I previously randomly picked recent attacks with a comparable number of targets.
I’m also pretty sure Ukrainian citizen suffered much more just because of the pure fire potential and the fact that the conflict is happens mostly on Ukrainian territory. Last winter was especially horrible. Russia bombed electricity infrastructure and some people simply froze because of the lack of heating.
They killed civilians. I have a friend who has a relative killed.
These things happen in war unfortunately.
When there are attacks with 500+ of drones and many missiles per day with only a handful of civilian casualties it’s pretty clear that they are not ‘targeting civilians and wanting to make as many casualties as possible’ as the western propaganda claim.
Unlike ukrainians that deliberately target civilian infrastructure, from schools to hospitals.
The comment @[email protected] was replying was about “doing them a favor”. I don’t think any sane Ukrainian would say “thanks” for what Russia is doing.
It’s a bit of a stretch. Both sides did similar things.
No, there is no denying the difference, they are not the same.
My comment is based on facts.
What kind of facts? You can find reports from both sides about accusing each other in attacking civilians.
As I said, the vast number of drones/missiles vs the few civilian casualties they make.
While ukros often bomb schools,hospitals and high rise buildings.
But the western media doesn’t report that.
Only last week they killed 21 kids in a student dormitory.
And all the news here was crying about the reaction strikes from Russia the next day.
Civilian houses in Ukraine are hit every day. Here is a house in Konop from today, for example:
The strike on the student dormitory sucks, but do you think Ukraine hasn’t gone through things like this? Here is a house in Dnipro from June 2 (15 deaths) for example:
What makes you think that Ukraine does that on purpose, and Russia by accident?
The Dnipro attack was a direct response to the targeting of the student house I mentioned.
656 long-range drones and 73 missiles were used.
As I said that with that much firepower only one house as collateral damage is pretty impressive, and if that happens they are usually they are next to a military target, and not deliberately targeted. The ukros killed 8 people that day in a drone attack on a bus BTW.
These targets can’t be justified, neither can the frequent buildings and schools hit in Russia or Donetsk and Luhansk in purely residential areas.
And I suspect the next one is the nazi town of Konotop, not Konop.
That name is well known to me.
Meet the mayor of that cute town:
They regularly have military there in civilian infrastructure which makes it a legitimate target.
And then you get [these articles](Источник: https://fact-news.com.ua/en/tragedy-in-sumy-konotop-mayor-semenikhin-and-people-s-deputy-bezugla-publicly-accused-the-authorities-and-the-military-leadership-video/ ) about hitting civilians when even the article says: " the strike may have been triggered by a gathering of soldiers at a military awards ceremony in the city center"
Exactly what they said about the ‘attack on civilian infrastructure’, a hotel.
And 3days later they fire a guy for having top military gatherings too close too the front line.
So your anecdotal collateral damage versus the systematic and deliberate attacks on civilians aren’t comparable in the least.
Not even mentioning the insane attacks on a nuclear plant or dams. Immense war crimes.
I didn’t say it was a single house. Most of the mentioned attack affected Kiev, there were a ton of casualties. One of the houses even got a strike for the second time while it was on fire. I can’t attach a video here, but pretty sure you can google this one.
I didn’t say this specific one was on purpose. I just showed an example of how often these things could happen. Both sides always say there was a military target, it’s just not practical media-wise to admit things like that.
I previously randomly picked recent attacks with a comparable number of targets.
I’m also pretty sure Ukrainian citizen suffered much more just because of the pure fire potential and the fact that the conflict is happens mostly on Ukrainian territory. Last winter was especially horrible. Russia bombed electricity infrastructure and some people simply froze because of the lack of heating.
I don’t think the main target is civilians, I think they have better targets (strategically speaking), you are right in this