my point is that voting third party is a really good way to get what you want. and it’s more powerful than voting one of the two main parties. not how good Brexit was.
Then you made your point poorly, and I’m not sure if you’re confused or are wittingly trying to confuse and deceive me.
Voting a third party in the US doesn’t get third party candidates elected. In fact, AIPAC is sponsoring opponents of candidates who have pledged not to take AIPAC contributions in order to dilute the vote. Election strategists are putting money behind the notion that third-party candidates serve as spoilers to principal candidates with whom they share platforms.
I am fully aware that there is no hope for a third party to ever win. but my point is that voting third party is still a very powerful tool. Even with first past the post.
I have provided an historical case study (don’t agree with the outcome, but the strength of third party vote is undeniable).
And I would appreciate it if we can at least agree that the US 2 party system works as a ratchet to fuck everyone over (except the rich). Regardless of one party being objectively worse.
Oh, I agree that the two party system does serve as a ratchet, and has since the 19th century with a few exceptions. I do believe it needs to be changed in order for the US to become a public-serving state. Since the 21st century, though, the Republican party has become an existential threat to even the meager democratic features of the US.
And given that third parties will typically be closer to the Democrats than Republicans in their platforms, third-party votes will displace Democratic votes more often than Republican votes. And in the current political clime, that is a problem.
however, getting a milk toast corporate neoliberal democrat next elections won’t help anyone. they’ll just say bs words like “healing”, “reconciliations”, “reaching across the isle”… instead of any systemic change.
and people simply can’t vote for that bs anymore, it’s so dystopian and unacceptable that Democrats asked the public to ignore a US paid genocide.
if Democrats ever want to win again, they have to get rid of their corporate BS and AIPAC.
also important, not sure if it’s too late for you, but vote in the primaries. Only way to get actual progression candidates.
however, getting a milk toast corporate neoliberal democrat next elections won’t help anyone. they’ll just say bs words like “healing”, “reconciliations”, “reaching across the isle”… instead of any systemic change.
and people simply can’t vote for that bs anymore, it’s so dystopian and unacceptable that Democrats asked the public to ignore a US paid genocide.
if Democrats ever want to win again, they have to get rid of their corporate BS and AIPAC.
also important, not sure if it’s too late for you, but vote in the primaries. Only way to get actual progression candidates.
my point is that voting third party is a really good way to get what you want. and it’s more powerful than voting one of the two main parties. not how good Brexit was.
Then you made your point poorly, and I’m not sure if you’re confused or are wittingly trying to confuse and deceive me.
Voting a third party in the US doesn’t get third party candidates elected. In fact, AIPAC is sponsoring opponents of candidates who have pledged not to take AIPAC contributions in order to dilute the vote. Election strategists are putting money behind the notion that third-party candidates serve as spoilers to principal candidates with whom they share platforms.
I am fully aware that there is no hope for a third party to ever win. but my point is that voting third party is still a very powerful tool. Even with first past the post.
I have provided an historical case study (don’t agree with the outcome, but the strength of third party vote is undeniable).
And I would appreciate it if we can at least agree that the US 2 party system works as a ratchet to fuck everyone over (except the rich). Regardless of one party being objectively worse.
Oh, I agree that the two party system does serve as a ratchet, and has since the 19th century with a few exceptions. I do believe it needs to be changed in order for the US to become a public-serving state. Since the 21st century, though, the Republican party has become an existential threat to even the meager democratic features of the US.
And given that third parties will typically be closer to the Democrats than Republicans in their platforms, third-party votes will displace Democratic votes more often than Republican votes. And in the current political clime, that is a problem.
however, getting a milk toast corporate neoliberal democrat next elections won’t help anyone. they’ll just say bs words like “healing”, “reconciliations”, “reaching across the isle”… instead of any systemic change.
and people simply can’t vote for that bs anymore, it’s so dystopian and unacceptable that Democrats asked the public to ignore a US paid genocide.
if Democrats ever want to win again, they have to get rid of their corporate BS and AIPAC.
also important, not sure if it’s too late for you, but vote in the primaries. Only way to get actual progression candidates.
however, getting a milk toast corporate neoliberal democrat next elections won’t help anyone. they’ll just say bs words like “healing”, “reconciliations”, “reaching across the isle”… instead of any systemic change.
and people simply can’t vote for that bs anymore, it’s so dystopian and unacceptable that Democrats asked the public to ignore a US paid genocide.
if Democrats ever want to win again, they have to get rid of their corporate BS and AIPAC.
also important, not sure if it’s too late for you, but vote in the primaries. Only way to get actual progression candidates.