It might be possible the Speaker of the House or a person under him knew and genuinely thought this way, but the rest of parliament didn’t know and probably only realized who the guy was after the ovation. They just assumed he was like any of the other ww2 veterans that are brought to parliament and that he fought for the allies. It’s easy to just go through the motions when no one should expect something so stupid. Showing off the guy who helped execute Zelenskyy’s family members after having the Ukrainian leader give an address is unfathomably dumb.
I think laziness is way more likely than someone knowing the truth and purposefully doing something that makes the Canadians seem like Nazis. Saying that this actually represents what Canadians believe is Russian imperialist bullshit.
The fact that the president of Ukraine cheered on a person who would have executed him and his family doesn’t make your perspective more likely. If anything, it reinforces my hypothesis. The politicians didn’t process what was said, and got caught up in the moment. People aren’t as smart as you seem to think. They don’t perceive holes in logic instantly, and don’t expect their own allies to do something so comically self defeating.
I do see how a person such as yourself would be motivated to assume the worst from Ukrainian leaders and their allies. The west is bad and the source of all evil afterall. I also see how you might have a different view of human competency than me. You probably think that you would have acted differently to those politicians, but I’m sorry to say that you’re not as smart or as immune from social forces as you think. Fuck Nazis, but Ukrainians aren’t all Nazis, and neither are all Canadians.
I assumed you were operating in bad faith as a Russian shill when I last responded. My hostility came from having to deal with so called leftists who repeat Russian talking points because they forget how imperialism worked. People wanting to see things that validate their anti west bias.
The efforts by Zelenskyy to downplay the terribleness of Nazi Ukrainians before the second invasion are enlightening. It makes sense why he would not want to alienate the Azov types. Nationalist fighters like them made up a significant chunk of the recruits in those days.
I do still stand firmly by my assessment that the vast majority of parliament didn’t understand who the guy was during the standing ovation. Not only do a multitude of psychological principles explain how they could cheer for a Nazi, the politics of the Canadian parliament also work against the assumption of guilt.
The liberal party have worked to portray themselves as antibigotry, much like the American Democrats. This strategy of being inclusive is effective at getting people to their left to go along with their economic policy. Discrimination is a serious issue that can affect the material conditions of these minorititized groups as significantly as capitalism. In diverse western countries, capital interests and bigotry have a stronger alliance than some parts of the world.
It might be possible the Speaker of the House or a person under him knew and genuinely thought this way, but the rest of parliament didn’t know and probably only realized who the guy was after the ovation. They just assumed he was like any of the other ww2 veterans that are brought to parliament and that he fought for the allies. It’s easy to just go through the motions when no one should expect something so stupid. Showing off the guy who helped execute Zelenskyy’s family members after having the Ukrainian leader give an address is unfathomably dumb.
I think laziness is way more likely than someone knowing the truth and purposefully doing something that makes the Canadians seem like Nazis. Saying that this actually represents what Canadians believe is Russian imperialist bullshit.
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The fact that the president of Ukraine cheered on a person who would have executed him and his family doesn’t make your perspective more likely. If anything, it reinforces my hypothesis. The politicians didn’t process what was said, and got caught up in the moment. People aren’t as smart as you seem to think. They don’t perceive holes in logic instantly, and don’t expect their own allies to do something so comically self defeating.
I do see how a person such as yourself would be motivated to assume the worst from Ukrainian leaders and their allies. The west is bad and the source of all evil afterall. I also see how you might have a different view of human competency than me. You probably think that you would have acted differently to those politicians, but I’m sorry to say that you’re not as smart or as immune from social forces as you think. Fuck Nazis, but Ukrainians aren’t all Nazis, and neither are all Canadians.
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I assumed you were operating in bad faith as a Russian shill when I last responded. My hostility came from having to deal with so called leftists who repeat Russian talking points because they forget how imperialism worked. People wanting to see things that validate their anti west bias.
The efforts by Zelenskyy to downplay the terribleness of Nazi Ukrainians before the second invasion are enlightening. It makes sense why he would not want to alienate the Azov types. Nationalist fighters like them made up a significant chunk of the recruits in those days.
I do still stand firmly by my assessment that the vast majority of parliament didn’t understand who the guy was during the standing ovation. Not only do a multitude of psychological principles explain how they could cheer for a Nazi, the politics of the Canadian parliament also work against the assumption of guilt.
The liberal party have worked to portray themselves as antibigotry, much like the American Democrats. This strategy of being inclusive is effective at getting people to their left to go along with their economic policy. Discrimination is a serious issue that can affect the material conditions of these minorititized groups as significantly as capitalism. In diverse western countries, capital interests and bigotry have a stronger alliance than some parts of the world.