Anthony Albanese vows to forge a new way forward to close the gap in life outcomes between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians, after voters resoundingly reject a Voice to Parliament.
not sure about generation but 1 or 2 election cycles for sure. this is the main problem with the outcome, it will be presented as a rejection of action and not of the voice itself. I would like to see the case from both major parties for what next, they both have said they have a plan so let’s hear it
Constitutional change isn’t on the cards, not in the near future. We’re not doing another referendum. Dutton fucked up when he said he would support one on just constitutional recognition alone because the conservatives do not support it. Sure, the government can legislate a voice but there’s always a chance that it will be dismantled like every other advisory group - that’s why it needed to be enshrined in the constitution. I think there’s more that can be achieved for voice and treaty now at the state level. That might even be more effective because states are responsible for health, education, child protection and justice, which are all areas that can be aligned to the close the gap outcomes. I would support a federal treaty process, hands down, but I’m sceptical that the majority of Australia will.
i agree, you have a good idea about the states. might be a way to move things forward. ultimately we need a sizable cultural change nationwide to really get things moving at a national level. im embarressed we arent quite there yet
States are responsible for everything in our federal system, only the federal government is limited in scope. A state voice will be a truly great thing to pursue for each state.
Literally need to wait for the boomers to die out. Yes there’s good ones but the majority are spoilt, entitled and easily influenced by the right and traditional media.
Constitutional recognition seems pretty much dead. There have been predictions made already that such widespread rejection of what was a very safe, conservative-friendly, good faith proposal from Indigenous activists will cause many to give up on this approach and shift further towards the tactics used by Thorpe and the Blak Sovereign Movement. They obviously have even less chance of succeeding within the current political and social climate, so it may take some time for any progress to be made at a national level.
That’s pretty much what Noel Pearson was saying a few days before the vote. I don’t really blame them. Australia just overwhelmingly rejected a very modest invitation for reconciliation, I don’t really see what else Indigenous leaders can do. It’s still worthwhile to fight for treaty and truth. But voice was kind of the easier option of the 3, so the other 2 are going to be very difficult.
Yeah, I suspect some of that generation of Indigenous activists will step back now. They’ve been at this for decades, making more and more concessions to try to get bipartisan support and have ultimately been betrayed at the final hour by the Coalition. Must feel pretty soul destroying.
As a member of another marginalised group I have always looked up to these Indigenous leaders for their passion and strength in fighting for change. My community supported the voice because we fundamentally believe in the idea of marginalised groups being able to have a greater say over the policies and laws that affect us. This is a great loss, not just for Indigenous Australians, but for all people who want to see structural change in their lifetime.
I don’t think there is a path forward. Not for another generation or so anyways.
not sure about generation but 1 or 2 election cycles for sure. this is the main problem with the outcome, it will be presented as a rejection of action and not of the voice itself. I would like to see the case from both major parties for what next, they both have said they have a plan so let’s hear it
Constitutional change isn’t on the cards, not in the near future. We’re not doing another referendum. Dutton fucked up when he said he would support one on just constitutional recognition alone because the conservatives do not support it. Sure, the government can legislate a voice but there’s always a chance that it will be dismantled like every other advisory group - that’s why it needed to be enshrined in the constitution. I think there’s more that can be achieved for voice and treaty now at the state level. That might even be more effective because states are responsible for health, education, child protection and justice, which are all areas that can be aligned to the close the gap outcomes. I would support a federal treaty process, hands down, but I’m sceptical that the majority of Australia will.
i agree, you have a good idea about the states. might be a way to move things forward. ultimately we need a sizable cultural change nationwide to really get things moving at a national level. im embarressed we arent quite there yet
States are responsible for everything in our federal system, only the federal government is limited in scope. A state voice will be a truly great thing to pursue for each state.
Literally need to wait for the boomers to die out. Yes there’s good ones but the majority are spoilt, entitled and easily influenced by the right and traditional media.
Constitutional recognition seems pretty much dead. There have been predictions made already that such widespread rejection of what was a very safe, conservative-friendly, good faith proposal from Indigenous activists will cause many to give up on this approach and shift further towards the tactics used by Thorpe and the Blak Sovereign Movement. They obviously have even less chance of succeeding within the current political and social climate, so it may take some time for any progress to be made at a national level.
That’s pretty much what Noel Pearson was saying a few days before the vote. I don’t really blame them. Australia just overwhelmingly rejected a very modest invitation for reconciliation, I don’t really see what else Indigenous leaders can do. It’s still worthwhile to fight for treaty and truth. But voice was kind of the easier option of the 3, so the other 2 are going to be very difficult.
Yeah, I suspect some of that generation of Indigenous activists will step back now. They’ve been at this for decades, making more and more concessions to try to get bipartisan support and have ultimately been betrayed at the final hour by the Coalition. Must feel pretty soul destroying.
As a member of another marginalised group I have always looked up to these Indigenous leaders for their passion and strength in fighting for change. My community supported the voice because we fundamentally believe in the idea of marginalised groups being able to have a greater say over the policies and laws that affect us. This is a great loss, not just for Indigenous Australians, but for all people who want to see structural change in their lifetime.