• @dynamojoe
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    98 months ago

    Shit take.

    Explanation: US ships floating along, not attacking Houthis. Houthis attack Americans (and others) unprovoked, for shits and giggles. America strikes back.

    “AmeR1Ca is S0 IMpuSiVe!! TheY doN’t CArE 4b0ut ne1 but da J00z!”

    If you need it explained further, no you fucking don’t.

    • ???
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      38 months ago

      Aren’t the Houthis attacking American outposts as a direct respons to America funding a genocide? Not supporting them or anything, but I don’t think it’s “unprovoked”.

      • PugJesus
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        8 months ago

        The Houthis started attacking international shipping months ago, regardless of destination or country of origin.

        It turns out, the “Death to America, Death to Israel, A Curse Upon the Jews” folks might be terrorist shitheads who just want to raise their profile. Who could have guessed?

        • ???
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          -18 months ago

          Well, yeah, no arguing with that, but it’s still not “unprovoked”, and America just goes around conducting attacks within the borders of supposedly sovereign countries, not too long after saying they will not do that. We all remember the Iraq War. I hope, at least.

          If Biden wants their attacks to stop, then deplatform them by not funding Israel.

          • PugJesus
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            38 months ago

            Well, yeah, no arguing with that, but it’s still not “unprovoked”,

            Fucking what

            How is attacking Singaporean shipping because of something Israel did justified by ‘provocation’

            Please, explain this fucking logic to me.

            • ???
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              18 months ago

              We disagree on what a valid provocation is, I think.

              I’m not saying they’re attacking the right ships, what I’m saying is that they have publicly declared their reasons and are harnessing support from a humanitarian catastrophe funded by the US. If Biden stops funding this genocide, they will have less and less global support for creating a shipping bottleneck.

              • PugJesus
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                We disagree on what a valid provocation is, I think.

                Yes, generally, I would regard a valid provocation as requiring the target of the attack to have done something to provoke it, and not someone entirely unrelated.

                I’m not saying they’re attacking the right ships, what I’m saying is that they have publicly declared their reasons and are harnessing support from a humanitarian catastrophe funded by the US. If Biden stops funding this genocide, they will have less and less global support for creating a shipping bottleneck.

                What global support for creating a shipping bottleneck are they receiving now? What reduction of support will make them stop?

                • ???
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                  18 months ago

                  I checked the wiki page of those vessels and it seems that the majoity they attacked was affiliated with Israel. One example was one Norwegian ship that initially claimed no connection and later turned out to have made a deal to deliver to Israel in January (the attack was in December).

                  I would say, if they are putting economic pressure on Israel as a means of sanctioning them, I don’t see the problem. Better than all the other counties that signed documents that forbid them from supporting a genocide but have not sanctioned Israel.

      • @dynamojoe
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        -18 months ago

        If that were the case, the Houthis would also attack the regimes in the area that perpetuate violence. Ain’t no angels in the middle east and they wouldn’t have to go far to find a funder of hate. They’re using a convenient excuse to justify unprovoked attacks on The Great Satan in hopes of raising their stature OR they’re doing it at the direction of a regional power. And I hope the Houthi’s shit gets pushed in.

        • ???
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          28 months ago

          From a reply I wrote someone else here:

          I checked the wiki page of those vessels and it seems that the majoity they attacked was affiliated with Israel. One example was one Norwegian ship that initially claimed no connection and later turned out to have made a deal to deliver to Israel in January (the attack was in December).

          I would say, if they are putting economic pressure on Israel as a means of sanctioning them, I don’t see the problem. Better than all the other counties that signed documents that forbid them from supporting a genocide but have not sanctioned Israel.

          Seems like they were provoked by a series of unending massacres committed by Israel (again, not saying they are angels or don’t have other agendas like the ones on their flag) and have clearly stated that they would stop if more aid is entering Gaza and Israel stops its aggression/US stops supporting Israel.