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I was responding to a comment from someone else, and not from you…
But there’s a reason why the tool is always religion
If it’s always religion then it can’t be anything else, right? So that person was indirectly stating that’s the only tool, and I was pointing out that there’s multiple ways of manipulating others, besides religion.
Because people are just their books, and have no free will of their own.
Very well. In that case I want a citation. How did you determine the “right” way and why is everyone else wrong?
You point to me in the New Testament where Jesus himself advocates violence and harm, and then we can have a conversation.
I already did this in this thread. Come on some level of effort on your point. He does it repeatedly! He talks about how he will be the future king and his enemies will be butchered then sent to hell. He makes a woman beg at his feet while calling herself a racial slur before he helps her kid. He rebukes a man with leprosy for having leprosy. He tells people to give up all means of support and their own families just to follow him.
Very well. In that case I want a citation. How did you determine the “right” way and why is everyone else wrong?
You’re being intellectually dishonest to suggest that I’m saying everyone else is wrong, as the point I’m trying to make is not that at all, that you can’t judge a whole people based on what their religion is, as people have free will and follow there religion to their modern worldview, and see what are you with me not just what ancient text stated verbaten.
As far as how I determine what the right way is, I do it via The Golden Rule. Do onto to others, as you would have others do unto you. Basically, what Jesus taught at a summary level. Be kind of others, don’t harm them help where you can, etc.
And for the record, I’m not a Christian, just in case you think you’re arguing against one.
I would love to have a Christian scholar review what you’re saying, especially the quotes that you’re stating are coming from Jesus, for factuality.
As far as how I determine what the right way is, I do it via The Golden Rule. Do onto to others, as you would have others do unto you.
And the classic justification is torturing/murdering people was needed to save their souls which is what you would want.
Basically, what Jesus taught at a summary level. Be kind of others, don’t harm them help where you can, etc.
He didn’t teach that. He didn’t exist. The idea predates the Bible by over five centuries in India, via trade routes and scholar migration it entered into that part of the world. It seems to have entered into Judaism about 50 or so BCE where it was attributed to Rabbi Hillel who has some superficial resemblance to the Jesus of Matthew.
And for the record, I’m not a Christian, just in case you think you’re arguing against one.
Very well. Would you mind commiting blasphemy against the Holy Ghost for me? A non-christian should have no problem with the unforgivable sin of Christianity.
I would love to have a Christian scholar review what you’re saying, especially the quotes that you’re stating are coming from Jesus, for factuality.
The Bible is freely available online. Do your own work.
As far as how I determine what the right way is, I do it via The Golden Rule. Do onto to others, as you would have others do unto you.
How the fuck do you get from what was said above to what is said down below?..
And the classic justification is torturing/murdering people was needed to save their souls which is what you would want.
Because I want others to murder me right. Jesus Christ.
Okay dude, I tried, honestly, but I’m blocking you. You’re literally the first person I’ve ever blocked on Lemmy, but you’re just not worth talking to.
How the fuck do you get from what was said above to what is said down below?..
Not my logic. I am pointing out the train of thought coming from St. Augustine in City of God onward. It is better to kill a hertic and give them a chance at heaven vs letting them live and they get no chance. If you don’t like that logic please invent a time machine and stop the witching burnings plus all the other awful stuff Christians did.
They all just happen to be religious by coincidence.
Religion is the tool, not the motive.
There are those that practice their faith the way it should be practiced, without causing harm to others.
And then there are others who want power, and will use the tool to manipulate others, to get that power.
But there’s a reason why the tool is always religion
You’d be foolish to think that that is the only tool available for people to manipulate others with.
No one is saying that it is.
I was responding to a comment from someone else, and not from you…
If it’s always religion then it can’t be anything else, right? So that person was indirectly stating that’s the only tool, and I was pointing out that there’s multiple ways of manipulating others, besides religion.
Tell me the Bible passage that says that.
Because people are just their books, and have no free will of their own.
You point to me in the New Testament where Jesus himself advocates violence and harm to innocents, and then we can have a conversation.
Very well. In that case I want a citation. How did you determine the “right” way and why is everyone else wrong?
I already did this in this thread. Come on some level of effort on your point. He does it repeatedly! He talks about how he will be the future king and his enemies will be butchered then sent to hell. He makes a woman beg at his feet while calling herself a racial slur before he helps her kid. He rebukes a man with leprosy for having leprosy. He tells people to give up all means of support and their own families just to follow him.
You’re being intellectually dishonest to suggest that I’m saying everyone else is wrong, as the point I’m trying to make is not that at all, that you can’t judge a whole people based on what their religion is, as people have free will and follow there religion to their modern worldview, and see what are you with me not just what ancient text stated verbaten.
As far as how I determine what the right way is, I do it via The Golden Rule. Do onto to others, as you would have others do unto you. Basically, what Jesus taught at a summary level. Be kind of others, don’t harm them help where you can, etc.
And for the record, I’m not a Christian, just in case you think you’re arguing against one.
I would love to have a Christian scholar review what you’re saying, especially the quotes that you’re stating are coming from Jesus, for factuality.
And the classic justification is torturing/murdering people was needed to save their souls which is what you would want.
He didn’t teach that. He didn’t exist. The idea predates the Bible by over five centuries in India, via trade routes and scholar migration it entered into that part of the world. It seems to have entered into Judaism about 50 or so BCE where it was attributed to Rabbi Hillel who has some superficial resemblance to the Jesus of Matthew.
Very well. Would you mind commiting blasphemy against the Holy Ghost for me? A non-christian should have no problem with the unforgivable sin of Christianity.
The Bible is freely available online. Do your own work.
How the fuck do you get from what was said above to what is said down below?..
Because I want others to murder me right. Jesus Christ.
Okay dude, I tried, honestly, but I’m blocking you. You’re literally the first person I’ve ever blocked on Lemmy, but you’re just not worth talking to.
Not my logic. I am pointing out the train of thought coming from St. Augustine in City of God onward. It is better to kill a hertic and give them a chance at heaven vs letting them live and they get no chance. If you don’t like that logic please invent a time machine and stop the witching burnings plus all the other awful stuff Christians did.
Where did I say it wasn’t part of the problem? I said the exact opposite, in fact.