• rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
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        If you actually were right, it would mean that Russians are more redeemable than Israelis, because if Israel is a democracy, then the majority are genocidal maniacs, as opposed to being a subjects to a genocidal government.

        I live in Russia, so very subjective, but this is true. There’s no support, but there’s nothing more to say, it all has been discussed 2 years ago.

        Israelis I mostly meet on the Web, so it would seem uncertain due to all the bots and loud morons, but sadly my relatives there seem to be in denial of reality too.

        EDIT: I remember somebody saying in my childhood that Zhirinovsky etc are useful to show how this kind of (genocidal/jingoist/anti-intellectualist/…) politicians in a democracy looks as opposed to power gained non-democratically.

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            Unfortunately, countries with elections in which there is a legally binding demographic imbalance are still considered democracies.

            Which is why even Switzerland, which did not allow women to vote until 1971, was still considered a democracy.

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          Israel is the aggressor too, violently colonizing and ethnically cleansing the local population. The Palestinians are just defending themselves against their own destruction. But it’s an unfair fight, because they only have small make-shift rockets against Israel with a big army and getting billions from the biggest empire in the world.

          The fact that Israel has a democracy is of no concern to the civilians in Gaza being bombed and starved to death. In fact, it makes it worse: Russians can’t vote out their government, but Israelis can.

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      Genocide is fine if done by a democracy. Got it

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          That is literally what you basically keep saying everywhere. That this cannot be a genocide because Israel is somehow a democracy. Your only sources are people like John Spencer and other such propaganda arns.

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      Funny that (a) one doesn’t recognize both espouse to be democracies, and (b) who said anything about right-wing nationalists requiring dictatorships? 🤡🧐

      … Try again, maybe?