Jake Lambert @LittleLostLad

The spelling of Irish names is my pet piamh

  • @FrankTheHealer
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    357 months ago

    Caoimh - kweeva

    Siobhán - Shivawn

    Sinead - Shin-ade

    Níamh - Neev

    Grainne - Grawn-ya

    Sorcha - Surka

    Bláthnaid - Blawnid

    Clíodnadh - Clee-ona

    Órlaith - Oar-la

    Ciara - Kee-ra

    All these names make sense when one understands Irish grammar and pronunciations, but I can absolutely see how people elsewhere would struggle with these.

    • Thomrade
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      87 months ago

      I wonder if its an accent thing but I’ve allways heard Niamh as “Nee-uv” and not “Neev” and I know quite a few Niamhs.

      • @theRealBassist
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        117 months ago

        Nee-uv is correct. The ‘i’ carries the stress, as indicated by the accent, so the ‘a’ turns into an unstressed vowel /ə/.

        To anyone else who has studied Irish, this is purposely a simplification.

        • Thomrade
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          57 months ago

          Ah Ok. I get ya. I wouldnt say I “studied” Irish despite doing it for 16+ years lol. I can read and write it, and speak it, but the actual intricacies of the phonetics is beyond me.

          • @theRealBassist
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            47 months ago

            I did an MA in Welsh and Celtic Studies at Aberystwyth.

            I did a few courses involving Old Irish and Scottish Gaelic, and while I enjoyed them I definitely can not speak any lol

            Ond, mae fy Nghymraeg ddim yn ofnadwy.

    • Nepenthe
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      57 months ago

      Oh… I always though Siobhan was really pretty, but it turns out I was just pronouncing it wrong.

    • @Hiccups2go
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      47 months ago

      Thanks for sharing this! Found a few others as I was looking up my family members names:

      Kevin - Caoimhín Maeve - Meadhbh

      • jan teli
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        137 months ago

        Damn I thought english was bad. How do you get neeve from niamh?

          • jan teli
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            77 months ago

            Oh I thought they meant irish as in irish english (the dialect, like how I speak australian english)

            • @Cheems
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              47 months ago

              A lot of people think that Gaelic is what Irish actually is. Which they are two different languages

        • Ready! Player 31OPM
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          167 months ago

          Because Irish is literally a different language. You wouldn’t ask the same thing about French or Vietnamese or whatever.

          • jan teli
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            17 months ago

            Yeah I know lol, I was thinking irish english

        • themeatbridge
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          77 months ago

          Because “v” isn’t a letter in Irish, but it is a phoneme approximated by “mh” or “bh.”

    • The Octonaut
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      67 months ago

      Neeve in the north/east of Ireland, Nee-uv in the south/west where I’m from, making this meme even more annoying.

    • @[email protected]
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      17 months ago

      This comment said:

      Somebody please tell me how that’s pronounced… Please… I beg of you.

  • @Rand0mA
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    77 months ago

    Tell that to Aoife

  • @Quetzalcutlass
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    57 months ago

    I’ll submit Scáthatch as the one I was most relieved to learn the correct pronunciation of.