• @meco03211
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    Honestly, I’m ok with Biden not participating in them. At this point they likely do more harm than good to him. Trump will just vomit whatever he feels like regardless of the question. He’ll lie and get his little quips in.

    The only way I see trump losing any support is if he suffers some major medical episode on stage, or finally drops a bigger racial slur (something like “darker people” would likely get a pass whereas the n word might finally take him down a notch). The incoherent rambling will get a pass. The thinly veiled racism or bigotry will get a pass. And all of that will just be soundbites for his slobbering masses to eat up.

    • @[email protected]
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      103 months ago

      a lot of people see biden as a senile, completely out of it old man…
      leftish people…
      (i had this argument last night)
      the last debates really helped that image, and i think were crucial for winning.

      if there’s no debate this time, far too many people will assume it’s because he can’t keep up…

      he can’t afford to look even slightly afraid of Cheeto Hitler…

      • @meco03211
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        But there doesn’t need to be a debate to accomplish that. He can do town halls or other public appearances.

      • @aodhsishaj
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        What does that mean? Trump has done nothing but shirk one on one debates, especially one on one contests. Biden is already the defacto candidate, Trump is likely going to install his family in the upper echelon of the RNC and the election is still over half a year away. This is just a distraction and Newsom is playing spoiler so that he can start up his run for 2028. There is no benefit to playing chess with a pigeon.

        • @rayyy
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          The orange liar will machine gun lies non-stop. It won’t be a debate.

      • GodlessCommie
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        His handlers will make sure he stays hidden. Otherwise the world might see the potato brain he is

        • @ShittyBeatlesFCPres
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          123 months ago

          Trump’s brain is turning to mush too, my man. Watch a video of him on Leno or Letterman. Father Time is undefeated.

          • GodlessCommie
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            I’m not defending Trump, it’s universally accepted he is incompetent. Liberals turn a blind eye to the same thing about Biden

            • @[email protected]
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              liberal
              1 definition found
              
              From WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006) [wn]:
              
              liberal
                adj 1: showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad
                       political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a
                       liberal newspaper"; "tolerant of his opponent's opinions"
                       [syn: {broad}, {large-minded}, {liberal}, {tolerant}]
                2: having political or social views favoring reform and progress
                3: tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy,
                   or tradition [ant: {conservative}]
                4: given or giving freely; "was a big tipper"; "the bounteous
                   goodness of God"; "bountiful compliments"; "a freehanded
                   host"; "a handsome allowance"; "Saturday's child is loving
                   and giving"; "a liberal backer of the arts"; "a munificent
                   gift"; "her fond and openhanded grandfather" [syn: {big},
                   {bighearted}, {bounteous}, {bountiful}, {freehanded},
                   {handsome}, {giving}, {liberal}, {openhanded}]
                5: not literal; "a loose interpretation of what she had been
                   told"; "a free translation of the poem" [syn: {free},
                   {loose}, {liberal}]
                n 1: a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and
                     reform and the protection of civil liberties [syn:
                     {liberal}, {liberalist}, {progressive}] [ant:
                     {conservative}, {conservativist}]
                2: a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and
                   self-regulating markets
              
                • @[email protected]
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                  I honestly just never know what someone is meaning when they throw around some terms. If a liberal is in favor laissez-faire market economies, then they aren’t leftist. But I usually see liberal thrown around as if it’s supposed to be a pejorative for a left leaning ideology. It’s one of those terms that I don’t even use anymore, because it doesn’t seem like we have a common definition.

  • @[email protected]
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    483 months ago

    Problem is, Trump won’t debate him back. He’ll just use the debate as a podium to spout falsehoods.

    • @twistypencil
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      Didn’t work last time, Trump looked like a coked up idiot and Biden told him to shut up, that played really well for Biden

      • @linearchaos
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        13 months ago

        Yeah, we probably don’t need to see that one again though, we’re still good.

  • @FanciestPants
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    323 months ago

    Can’t we just rewatch the ones from 4 years ago and get the general idea?

  • MisterCrisper
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    213 months ago

    One of the problems with this is that the debate rules are not enforced. If you go back and watch Trump in previous debates he continually ignores the time limits and talks over the moderator when told his time is up. Microphones for both participants should automatically shut off when the speaker’s time is up.

    Also, obvious, outright lies should earn a microphone cutoff although this would be dependent on a moderator that would be acceptable to both debaters. I can’t see Trump ever agreeing to live fact checking during a debate.

    Additionally, Trump appears to be even less mentally capable than he was in the previous debates - I do not believe it would end well for him.

    • Uranium3006
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      You could have a panel of 3 one chose by each cannidate and one both agree to and 2/3 can mute anyone at any time

  • @paddirn
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    He really shouldn’t, and he should say he’s not going to because he thinks that Trump should be disqualified from running for being an insurrectionist. At this point, there’s really nothing to be gained from even trying to debate Trump, as Trump isn’t even trying to participate in the democratic process in good faith. Hell, the Republican party in general is not participating in the democratic process in good faith. Anyone who is still “on the fence” about who they will vote for is either an idiot who hasn’t been paying attention or a centrist just looking for an excuse to vote for the fascists.

  • @[email protected]
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    113 months ago

    normally debating draws clearer distinctions between the candidates and helps the low information voter in making their decision.

    this isn’t a normal election.

    you have one candidate who is a normal politician willing and able to make his case for what he feels is best in moving the other forward. the other is a raving ranting tax cheat and sexual predator who has absolutely no clue about foreign policy, domestic policy, financial policy and is transparently going after one type of person. that other person is also easily swayed to do everything that a minority of a minority population wants because that demographic cheers him and praises him as a god king.

    there is absolutely nothing to be gained from a debate between the two major party candidates other than the disgust of a nation when one of them spews his vitriol about the non whites and the stochastic terrorism he inspires from his unchecked hate speech. it is in the best interests of that candidate to not debate, since the political media does every fucking thing in it’s power to not accurately or report in a timely fashion the utterly bizzare and undemocratic statements he makes on a regular basis. letting him fly free to direct questioning will only drive away the middle of the voting population, the ones who actually vote people into office.

  • Jessica
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    33 months ago

    What a stupid idea. TFG doesn’t care about anything unless it personally benefits him. We cannot give him what he wants.

    • TheaoneAndOnly27
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      What does TFG mean? I keep trying to think of things, “that fucking guy”?

      I’m 100% understand that it’s referencing Trump. I’m just not sure what stands for

      • Jessica
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        13 months ago

        You got it right. TFG == That Fucking Guy. I don’t recall where I saw it first, but I love it.

        • A Phlaming Phoenix
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          This usually means “The Former Guy” in reference to Trump. It’s a lot like calling Voldemort “He who shall not be named”.

  • @xc2215x
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    23 months ago

    If Trump agrees then go for it.

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    13 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    When asked by NBC News’ “Meet the Press” moderator, Kristen Welker, about whether the two should debate in the fall in the likely event that they are the two major-party nominees, Newsom said, “100%.”

    “This is … pure projection on a guy who refused to debate in his own primary,” he added, saying it was “weakness masquerading as strength.”

    But he said this month he wants to face off against Biden “immediately,” adding it would be “for the good of the country.”

    Trump’s request to debate Biden came almost two years after the Republican National Committee voted to withdraw from events put on by the Commission on Presidential Debates, which has overseen the process for decades.

    At the time, RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel said the group withdrew from debates because the commission “is biased and has refused to enact simple and commonsense reforms to help ensure fair debates.”

    In November, the commission released the dates and locations of three presidential debates it hopes to host this fall.


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