• Flying Squid
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    A decade after Garner and mayor is a cop. Nothing has improved. And it says a lot that nothing has improved while the amount of evidence has shot up.

  • mozz
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    31 month ago

    I wish it was easier to see what is going on from the data they show 😕

    NYPD is in my opinion on one of the worst tiers of police agencies in the country, and so it wouldn’t surprise me if they are still very bad. But it’s hard to tell one way or another from this article.

    It would be nice to see e.g. a breakdown of all fatal interactions with police, and all interactions that led to a use-of-force complaint, what the categories were in terms of:

    • What % they refused to give body cam footage
    • What % our use of force expert said it was ok
    • What % our expert said it was debatable
    • What % our expert said the cops were very clearly abusive

    Just reporting numbers like, how many complaints were there, or how many people did the police shoot whether or not it was needed, isn’t real enlightening

    • @[email protected]
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      61 month ago

      We can’t even get mandatory reporting of the numbers of people they kill and you expect details to be available? There is no interest in actually reforming police behavior.

  • Verdant Banana
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    no

    people blindly voted for Biden and are gearing up to do so again even after his failed promise of police reform while picking a prosecutor for a vice

    plus since Eric Garner was killed the list of what you can be pulled over for has grown such as abortion traffickers

    and with terry stops being legitimized by judges in courtrooms everyone will be a target before too long

    slowly becoming the United Police States Under Christ

    • mozz
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      What the fuck

      I came in here to talk about police brutality and the NYPD; I did not expect to see Biden’s name come into it when the NYPD is borderline brownshirts and hates the fuck out of Biden and doesn’t seem inclined to accept instructions about how much brutality to do from anybody much less a stinkin’ Democrat

      But sure. Biden’s action on law enforcement has mostly been to make small but sensible reforms to federal law enforcement (one, two).

      If you want more police reform, a good place to start would be supporting efforts in congress to do the same in other police jurisdictions, as opposed to (as is tradition) blaming the whole thing on Biden and Biden only and doing everything possible to swing the election to his opponent who is 18 times worse on the issue.

      • @gAlienLifeformOP
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        Biden has recommended a lot of best practices that would be an improvement of they were implemented, but he hasn’t even tried to make them a requirement and he’s simultaneously signed off on a ton of new unconditional funding for police departments, and he’s bragged about doing this and campaigned on it.

        And, like, I shouldn’t have to explain this but just to make it very clear - cops lie all the time, and they brutalize and kill people for no good reason all the time, and Biden’s out here doing PR work for them and giving them more capacity to harass and brutalize and kill people. And I’m still going to vote for him, and I tell other people to too, but I can’t stop thinking about how things have gotten so fucking bad in this country that I’m voting for the party and candidate who will kill me and my friends more slowly. It’s not sustainable.

        • mozz
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          He’s made them a requirement for federal cops, which are the ones under his control, and also stopped some policies (transferring military equipment to local police) that were actively a bad thing for local departments.

          His budgets included, along with increased funding, a good amount of funding for programs for non-police intervention and other things the ACLU thought were good ideas. I can’t find the ACLU page that explains their whole mixed review - because it also includes their criticism for the stuff you’re talking about - but even being a hawk for the police in general, he’s been doing some amount of lefty stuff as well, not just talking about it.