• @[email protected]
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    1303 months ago

    Funny how they don’t even pretend there’s any logic to it. If you can view it in the app, then the content has been reviewed after all…? Clearly just a way to enforce app usage.

    • @givesomefucks
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      413 months ago

      They don’t say it, but you can also go to old.reddit and there’s none of those stupid warnings.

        • @ThunderWhiskers
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          33 months ago

          It’s inconsistent for mine. Sometimes I will get in no problem, sometimes I bounce off until I change IP/location, and sometimes I get hard blocked.

    • @AndrewZabar
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      93 months ago

      They want ad revenue and the app is the only place they can be confident you’re not blocking.

  • @[email protected]
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    853 months ago

    We’re expecting a giant influx of users when the popular workaround, old.reddit.com (perhaps with RES to make it less outdated), inevitably gets shut down. Please try to make Lemmy a worthwile space in the meantime so that they stay!

    • [email protected]
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      503 months ago

      As long as they’re fans of trans positive meme dumps and endless half-serious slap fights about distros, they’ll feel right at home.

      • @ngwoo
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        133 months ago

        They won’t even notice anything changed

      • mad_asshatter
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        43 months ago

        …you also must despise Trump, and if you don’t, you will.

      • @saltesc
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        Don’t forget the Rule 34 manga and rhetoric of not sexualising anything. Also the college kid Marxists… and Linux cults… And figuring out liberalism and “American liberals” are polar opposites. Basically avoid .ml And obviously don’t let anyone know your skin colour, gender, or sexual preferences if they’re vanilla. And support all war that’s against Russia. I think that’s it- Oh, and don’t reply to the same person more than twice in a thread.

        Apart from that, they’ll feel right at home.

        Ah, yeah, and obv use Thunder.

        • Allah
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          23 months ago

          What is thunder?

            • Allah
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              13 months ago

              Is it better than voyager?

              • @saltesc
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                For Lemmy apps, it’s best to try a few for a week or so each—theres a few good’nes—and you land on the one you like. I was just plugging Thunder because it’s sort of like the Linux of Lemmy apps. All the cool underground kids froth on it and those that don’t use it couldn’t give a fuck, because they don’t know any better, man!

              • Lupec
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                I’ve used both and have been daily driving Voyager for months, I’d say they’re both great to the point it’s a matter of taste. May as well give it a go if you’re curious!

    • Lemminary
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      203 months ago

      And please actively remind people to remain civil. We can be better than Reddit in so many ways. I believe!

      • @[email protected]
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        103 months ago

        I think Lemmy is and will be quite good at remaining civil because the questionable content makers use their own instances and get defederated. The most edgy community federated with the main cluster I found is [email protected]. It features cryptic posts that presumably make sense if you engage in the decentralized (IRC? Telnet??) discourse channels of sdf.org and some appear to be pro-fascist depending on how you interpret the questionable veil of sarcasm. I don’t think it’s serious enough to consider defederation because the worst ones get massively downvoted anyway.

        • @givesomefucks
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          They’re not just staying on those instances tho…

          When they get defederated (usually long before) they find a small boutique instance (that’s actually valid) but didn’t bother to set up any requirements for account creation then make a shit ton of accounts to troll with.

          If you ever look at the main modlog you’ll see there’s a significant amount getting banned on a daily basis.

          But they just go make another, and even tho most instances are doing something about it, there’s a surprising amount of zombie instances no one will ever change but are still running for some reason and federated with large instances.

          Eventually the main ones will need to “prune” a lot of instances, which shouldn’t be surprising considering a year ago everyone wanted to federate with everyone.

          Imagine just walking thru a city and inviting literally everyone to come hang out at your apartment, even giving them the door code to get I to your building. That’s kind of what happened.

      • @[email protected]
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        Yes. However, we need to solve the chicken-and-egg problem of niche communities. For example, there is no Czech community at all after both the czech-lemmy.eu and kyberpunk.social instances went down. It’s only once the communities get going and start appearing in “All/Active” feeds that I’d worry about serious moderation.

        • @ngwoo
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          It’s a tough position to be in for non-English and regional communities. For something like a game you can cross post in both a general videogames community and a more specific one and help people find it, but there’s not much of an option for any sort of non-English non-pop culture topic.

    • @wazoobonkerbrain
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      I joined lemmy just over a year ago when reddit killed its API. I hoped that my favorite subreddit would come here too but it didn’t so I wandered back to reddit. I was clinging to old.reddit.com and would probably have stayed around for as long as that lasted. But recently they began requiring email addresses. That was too much and here I am.

      • @[email protected]
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        63 months ago

        Can I ask which subreddit or is it private? I know which communities I miss but I’m curious what communities we need to cultivate for others.

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            How are you seeing that an email is required? Is it when you try to post something? My account is banned so I just us it to lurk but I can still log in.

            • @wazoobonkerbrain
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              My account is banned. I can still log in and lurk, but not post, upvote, etc. And, as I already said: When I log in to the main site, it says “account permanently banned”. When I log in to old reddit, it says “provide an email to reactivate your account”.

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                I didn’t see where you already said that. Weird though that it happens to you and not me. Seems like we’re doing the same things otherwise. I did recently have an issue where my adblock was preventing me from logging in on firefox but it was just saying my username/password were invalid. If you have that going maybe try turning it off to log in and see what happens.

                • @wazoobonkerbrain
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                  Whoopsies! I posted that to a similar conversation in a completely different thread, I got confused. My apologies. I don’t know what you mean when you say that it is happening to me but not to you. You say that your account is banned and that you can only lurk - sounds exactly the same as my experience. Nothing to do with adblock as I have confirmed the problem on multiple platforms.

  • @yogurtwrong
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    I hate the fact that reddit has so much valuable data in it, like thousands of extremely niche subreddits and answers to your questions.

    I wish someone could just mirror it all

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      Actually, I found archiveteam’s reddit dump. I think we can re-host this on activitypub, as a form of read-only, easy to browse archive.

      The data is on archive.org is marked non-downloadable to limit traffic. I emailed archive.org requesting one of the 10GB pieces to experiment with. Fingers crossed

    • @raspberriesareyummy
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      *had. I deleted all my posts that I could find. I hope many others did the same. “Conveniently” these assholes limit how far back in your post history you can go, and beyond that I can no longer delete comments because I can’t systematically browse them to edit in “Fuck reddit!”. :/

        • @raspberriesareyummy
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          It does - ever since the “new new UI” I had been using that exclusively. Still, there’s a limit in how many pages back you can go in your comment history to edit / delete. If you happen to find one of your old comments by other means, you can still edit it - but not through your own history. But I see that long before that caps out, some of my comments have already been restored, after having been gone for months… Those fuckers…

        • @raspberriesareyummy
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          I was - I had waited a bit too long and the API was locked down, I was under the impression that the deletion tools no longer worked (and a bit hesitant to give my login / password to some third party tool)

  • @Gradually_Adjusting
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    Over the last year I think I’ve dropped in about six times out of sheer habit, and each time I am driven away by the undeniable force of asshole design.

  • @Wrench
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    That’s only on mobile browser mode. Open your browser settings and select Desktop site and you won’t see that modal anymore.

    Still an asshole design, though.

  • @[email protected]
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    243 months ago

    If you absolutely have to read something from reddit and it throws this, just switch to the desktop site instead of mobile.

    • DarkSirrush
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      213 months ago

      Desktop doesn’t work anymore, gotta use old.reddit now.

      • @Plopp
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        33 months ago

        I don’t know what you’re using but request desktop version in Firefox on Android works fine. Tried it just now.

            • DarkSirrush
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              23 months ago

              Which I assumed was the same experience as “desktop mode” on mobile, since that’s what it is supposed to be.

          • @Plopp
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            Wait, what? We’re talking about Reddit trying to force you to use their app instead of a browser. That’s on mobile. Are you saying your experience on a desktop is that Reddit is telling you to use their app instead of the browser, on the desktop?

            Also, you have to be a madman to even try regular Reddit instead of old.reddit on the desktop.

            • DarkSirrush
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              13 months ago

              Yes, on Firefox on endeavorOS I get a prompt to switch to the app visiting subreddits like this.

              And i don’t use regular reddit, I just don’t use reddit often enough to install a redirect plugin.

              • @Plopp
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                13 months ago

                Do they have a native Linux app or are they saying you should switch devices? If they’re telling you to switch to the phone that would be the first time I’ve ever seen that ever, it’s absolutely ridiculous and they can go fuck themselves lol.

      • @Evolith
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        12 months ago

        And whenever they want to drop a site-wide ban for any reason, it’s easier to punish the whole device instead of fixing issues or pretending that most of the ad viewership doesn’t consist of bots.

    • @Raiderkev
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      73 months ago

      And the old.reddit site I believe

        • Bezier
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          23 months ago

          Those who use old reddit to get around it wouldn’t likely get the app anyway, so why even try blocking it?

            • Bezier
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              03 months ago

              Hard disagree.

              How so? It already takes knowledge and effort, what would another hoop change?

              The same reason new Reddit exists. The same reason they blocked third party apps from using their API; To increase engagement and serve you more ads more effectively.

              If the gains outweigh the cost.

  • Lung
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    223 months ago

    Lemme apps are better now anyway, and no ads

  • @p5yk0t1km1r4ge
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    213 months ago

    I cannot stress this enough: if you just want to browse reddit without interacting with anyone and supporting their greedy, stupid bullshit, I highly recommend RDX.

    • @cryptiod137
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      23 months ago

      Or nsfwbrowser, for you know, the good stuff

      • Allah
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        13 months ago

        Whats that? Link?

    • @NOT_RICK
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      I can second this, it’s handy enough for the occasional check

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      I’m checking it out by your recommendation. I do post sometimes so I use Dystopia for that but oh it’s a horrendous UI. I suppose that’s why Spaz allowed it - and because it’s supposed to be for visually impaired.

      Edit: doesn’t seem to offer anything substantial beyond Dystopia so I’m fine with Dystopia.

      • @p5yk0t1km1r4ge
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        I literally said it’s for people who don’t interact with the site. Of course dystopia is more substantial. Lol

        • @AndrewZabar
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          Oh yeah, that wasn’t a criticism sorry I was merely indicating that for me, it’s just not worth using both. Thank you for the info though, I’m sure you helped some other people who could benefit from that. :-)

    • Allah
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      Actually i prefer HMX explosives

      Oh we are talking about an app?

    • @nucleative
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      Second that. RDX now has both an iphone and Android app, but the web version works fairly well on mobile too.

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    I just posted to Reddit about my Twystlock gaming accessory release. Something free for everyone.

    Most subreddits don’t allow cross-posting, so I made 5 posts in total. 1 was taken down by mods. 3 were taken down by Reddit. Only r/Handhelds survived.

    I don’t use Reddit anymore in day to day, but I’ve had releases like Winapps sit at the top of r/Linux for days and never had these issues until more recently. Garbage.

  • @AndrewZabar
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    Yup. They got so desperate for money they first screwed developers with the API change and now they’re going to push this more and more. My expectation is they’re going to slowly move toward forcing usage of the official app or absolutely nothing else.

    Spaz is desperate for ad money. I’m only in a few subs that have no Lemmy equivalent yet, but otherwise I’ve ditched reddit like the steaming pile of shit that it’s become.

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    Havent tried for a while, but you used to be able to change the url to

    https://old.reddit.com/r/…

    to bypass these shitty “use our app instead”. You don’t get mobile view but you can at least see it

    • @[email protected]
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      the “new” design is pretty much unusable on desktop too, imo. IF I absolutely must visit reddit, old.reddit it is.

    • @JeeBaiChow
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      53 months ago

      There’s also firefox extension that does just that, in case you forget.

    • @wazoobonkerbrain
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      On mobile you can use RedReader. When reddit revoked access to its API, it made an exception for RedReader, because that app supports certain accessibility features which are “not yet” (i.e. never will be) supported by the official reddit app. So if you still want to access reddit on mobile, use RedReader, it has no ads and is much less irritating than the official reddit app.

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          😂 I could understand why some people feel that way.

          I like it because it does not have any ads, and because it’s very easy to switch between accounts. You can even post from one account while logged in to another.

          But that is the only reddit mobile app that I ever used. I never even downloaded the official one, nor did I try any of the other third party ones that got blocked. I could believe that some of them were much better than RedReader.

  • @[email protected]
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    Reddit, Twitter. I don’t understand why they are putting so much effort into making sure that people can’t use them comfortably. I always thought there should be as few barriers for the user as possible, otherwise they might drop out. Are these platforms more concerned about selling data for LLMs now?

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    Stop going back, it’s not worth it

  • @x00z
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    It’s funny because Ukrainian war videos are put into the main feed, and you can watch the videos. But when you click the title to read the comments it asks you to login for sensitive content.

    It’s such a shitty, buggy and slow website.

    • @[email protected]
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      13 months ago

      Try clicking the comment number link, not the title link. I don’t understand the difference, but it sometimes it changes things.

    • @Crashumbc
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      I’ve heard a fair number of people say Reddit looks for and rolls back mass delete/edits like these. Not sure how true it is.

      • @Dead_or_Alive
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        Don’t delete your account, go back and mass change your posts and comments to AI generated gibberish.

        It poisons their communities and will make it harder for Reddit from monetizing their content for Learned Language models for AI or for search.

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          Can’t they see the edits? They must have an archive for it.

          • @Dead_or_Alive
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            They probably do, but how deep is that LLM going to go and how much can Reddit archive?