• Hegar
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    283 hours ago

    Didnt we already know that elon opened starlink to the russians? I thought he announced after that call with putin?

  • @LEDZeppelin
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    986 hours ago

    DOJ and Pentagon are you listening?

    • @RedditWanderer
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      476 hours ago

      It’s one thing to be a capitalistic shitbag, it’s another to be a traitor. Governments like capitalistic shitbags

      • @Zorque
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        23 hours ago

        Corrupt governments like capitalistic shitbags.

      • @[email protected]
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        44 hours ago

        Is it possible to be a traitor when you’re a capitalist shitbag?

        They only have loyalty to themselves and their bank account. Quite literally the world could burn (due to their business) for all they care.

    • lurch (he/him)
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      396 hours ago

      they could also have stolen it though. gotta wait what an investigation of the serial numbers finds

        • @[email protected]
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          296 hours ago

          Shouldn’t they be capable of detecting where the connection is going and disconnect/block it for specific regions or something? I have no clue how any of that stuff works but this one thing feels like it should be the case.

          • @halcyoncmdr
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            356 hours ago

            They do, but Ukraine uses Starlink, so they can’t really disable usage entirely in the contested areas. They could disable the individual terminals, but that would require knowing which ones the Russians were using in the first place.

            • @takeda
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              145 hours ago

              Well, given that they have access to Internet via starlink, all they would have to do is set up a website and list the IDs, then block everything that’s not there.

              They got me shipment? Add them to the list? No longer own the device? Remove it.

              • @halcyoncmdr
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                115 hours ago

                The problem is that not all of those terminals are being purchased by Ukraine, or supplied through official channels. There are tons of equipment being donated from third parties not directly affiliated, including Starlink terminals.

                That’s great if the Ukraine military were the only users in the region, but they aren’t. Regular Starlink service is available in the country, outside military use. Even though the Ukraine military is using it, Starlink is not designed to be a military network. It is a civilian network that just happens to be available and extremely useful in this case, even with the Russian attempts to interfere with signals in the region.

          • @[email protected]
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            96 hours ago

            The Starlink probably only works once the drone enters Ukraine. Disabling Starlink in that area would cut off the Ukrainian military too. The internet traffic could easily be routed through a VPN in another country, so blocking Russian IP addresses on Starlink wouldn’t work either.

            • @[email protected]
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              56 hours ago

              If Starlink is the internet provider, aren’t they providing the IP address? If they are how would a VPN trick Starlink since the equipment has to connect to Starlink first?

            • @[email protected]
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              25 hours ago

              Whitelist/allowlist for this region comes to my mind. But probably some other specific problems would arise from this too. Hmm…

  • @brucethemoose
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    416 hours ago

    Isn’t that a massive security risk?

    Like, what if the U.S was using Roscosmos satellite links in drones? I’d certainly be raising an eyebrow.

    • @halcyoncmdr
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      166 hours ago

      Yeah, but it’s not a government satellite system, it’s an independent Internet provider. It is always possible that the US government/military has access on the back end, but that’s not guaranteed. And since Ukraine is using Starlink, they can’t exactly just disable all access in the region.

      Kind of makes sense for Russia to try and use Starlink at least a bit to test the waters and see what sort of Intel the US has access to directly through it.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 hour ago

        It is guaranteed, actually. US law imposes requirements on telecoms providers to support wire taps

        • @halcyoncmdr
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          21 hour ago

          A wiretap is different than having something like backdoor access at will for military use.

  • @[email protected]
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    196 hours ago

    If the item is indeed Starlink hardware, it should be possible to prove its origins – perhaps even where it was bought, and by whom.

    sheeeeeeeeeeeit. Starlink isn’t going to say shit, maybe someone else controls the database of serial numbers?

    Has Tesla even identified that TX CyberFuck that killed it’s unidentified (?) driver in early August? I can’t find any followup on that, except that the wreck was going to be auctioned at the end of August. It’s the one truck that has gone dark in all of TX that month… easy to figure it out on Tesla’s end.

    • Optional
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      166 hours ago

      Remember they fired their corporate communications and even municipalities mid-project can’t get anyone on the phone. It’s burning down.

      That said, I would not be shocked at all to find Elmo with his fascist oligarch mitts on this. That fucker needs a serious regulatory beatdown. (Not an actual, like, punching him in the head beatdown.)

      • zkfcfbzr
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        105 hours ago

        (Not an actual, like, punching him in the head beatdown.)

        Look, let’s not be picky here