• @[email protected]
      6•3 days ago

      My problem is not so much their political philosophy but the fact that many of them answered “America Bad” with “China good” or even worse “Russia good”

    • @Dasus
      7•3 days ago

      Yeah they’re literal Russians. Not just some propaganda through a few proxies and some random tank posting but directly pro-Russian, anti-Ukrainian authoritarian accounts which post Russian propaganda and get really fucking sensitive when you ask them “are you pro-Russian?”

      It’s the one question they refuse to lie about, because they know their arbitrary leadership could use anything like that as proof to have them killed. Unlikely? Very. Are they still deathly afraid, so much so they can’t answer a simple yes or no question, even when they spout straight lies about themselves? Yes, they are.

      I could ping two here, but I won’t, since they blame me for “stalking” them for calling them out, and then abuse mod status. Davel and AntiOutsideAktion on lemmy.ml are both accounts like that.

      • @[email protected]English
        6•3 days ago

        Not all MLs are Russians. I’d be surprised if they make up even a small percentage of Lemmy MLs.

        I don’t believe anyone is getting killed because of a Lemmy comment. I doubt any Russians are paid to post here when they could hit a massively larger audience on a mainstream site.

        • @Dasus
          1•3 days ago

          Paid to post here? No, I’m not saying that, but… now that you mention it, I think you might be right. Because everything is a projection.

          So, getting enough rubles for your troubles, my friend? (This is a half-joke, as I can’t be arsed to look your profile up.)

          Davel pretends to be an American.

          So he’s an American, who for some reason is pro-Russian, against Ukraine and even denies Uighur genocide, and comments things like “reality has a well known Russian propaganda bias”.

          Sure he is. Sure he is. Definitely not lying about being an American, while being deathly afraid of commenting anything about Putin for fear of falling out a window. 😂

          Edit right forgot, Davel keenly claims there’s no Russian influence on Lemmy. That’s like his nr1 thing. Pretty close to what you’re saying.

          Are you pro-Russian?

          • @[email protected]English
            2•3 days ago

            Im pro Ukraine, fuck Russia

            I think there have been government abuses in Xianjiang, but I dont think there is a genocide.

            • @Dasus
              3•3 days ago

              Well to be honest, I don’t really care as much about debating that right now, as it’s not something I’ve really researched properly.

              The main thing is you’re on the right side in the Russo-Ukrainian conflict. High five

              • @Gigasser
                1•20 hours ago

                I honestly think “campist” attitudes are what causes all the Russia/China support in MLs. Even if you aren’t campist, you’re still affected by the influence of your ML peers who are campist.

                • @Dasus
                  1•19 hours ago

                  I genuinely have no idea what you mean by “campist”. Being in one camp or the other? As in… being polarised?

        • @Dasus
          6•3 days ago

          Just drop in “btw, are you pro-Russian?” They’ll make very good attempts at pretending they didn’t purposefully ignore it, but oh boy do they. And Davel pretends to be an American.

          So he’s an American, who for some reason is pro-Russian, against Ukraine and even denies Uighur genocide, and comments things like “reality has a well known Russian propaganda bias”.

          Sure he is. Sure he is. Definitely not lying about being an American, while being deathly afraid of commenting anything about Putin for fear of falling out a window. 😂

  • IHeartBadCode
    37•3 days ago

    Pretty much. Russia isn’t the only one doing it, but boy are they a well oiled machine.

  • @[email protected]
    6•3 days ago

    Honestly I sometimes wonder it we’ve gotten to point where it’s too late.

    Except for a couple exceptions, I feel like it’s infiltrated nearly everyone I know.

    • @PugJesusOPEnglish
      19•3 days ago

      Can’t possibly be that a good chunk of Americans are just kinda fucked up themselves in the first place, can’t be that that is why it’s so easy for like 50 kopeck vatnik army on dial up and vodka to obliterate the country.

      Yes, that is what is pictured in the meme.

      Also taking issue with your own country’s imperialism like the arms supplies leading to excess deaths in Gaza on the order of a right wing nutter with a warrant from the ICC or god forbid things like the Iraq war is the same as being racist, sexist, anti-abortion, anti-science, pro-shooting, anti-LGBT… truly a neoliberal stand if ever there was one - not against bad things but against principles altogether.

      What