Wait what? I only use Old Reddit and Infinity on mobile so idk what they are doing
Is this why we are solving motorcycle, stairs, fire hydrant, etc. captchas?
To help blind drivers, no. To help AI, yes.
So that ‘AI’ car driving software can have an image reference database that relies on people who download porn.
I use an app called Be My Eyes to help the visually impaired.
You’ll get a random notification that a person needs your help. If you’re the first to respond, you’ll be paired up. Their phone camera is displayed on your screen, and you can talk to each other.
I always have a great experience when I use it.
Just fyi, the vast majority of people don’t use Apple products
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bemyeyes.bemyeyes
Can we just use the universal landing page instead of picking pointless ways to divide ourselves?
For the blind and visually impaired.
iOS is the majority in the US, sadly.
I dont think the majority of lemmy users are from the US though
It certainly seems so judging by the amount of US politics
Hmm fair point
Ok, but the US isn’t the majority of the world.
Well, 4% of the population, 90% of the stupidity so…
I didn’t say it was.
Globally it’s about 12% though
They’re not winning over the blind again after they limited access to screen-reader-accessible apps.
On the flip side, training ai for image recognition has the potential for auto labelling images for the blind
Could be either the website owners themselves generate them if a human written one isn’t provided, or a browser extension that auto labels any unlabelled images on the screen
They’re probably going to make a deal with Google to improve Google Lens. Yes, it will eventually help the blind but Reddit’s shareholders will be getting even richer from people’s donated time.
Anybody can use the data as long as it’s public facing. It’s not because websites like reddit and getty stomp their feet and want us to pay that we have to.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_datasets_for_machine-learning_research
Reddit is already in every llm model. Until the courts say otherwise clearly (and I highly doubt they will), it’s fair game as it should be.
At this point, any request for information could potentially be used as training data. That includes things like captchas.
I recommend everyone have an extremely literal interpretation of “labor”. Unless you have tremendous insight into where your data is going and how it is being used (and perhaps even then), then assume any ask is ultimately an ask for unpaid labor.
Obviously you can’t avoid things like captchas, but you can avoid things like this.
Edit: and it should go without saying, but anything you upload to socials is probably automatic training data at this point. The best approach is simply not to engage with corporate social networks.
Though Lemmy is not corporately controlled, the information is publically accessible, so even this post is potential training data to be scraped. That is harder to avoid, lest we stop using the internet altogether, but at least avoiding the corpo routes is a good start.
Captchas have been for training ai for years that’s nothing new. Iirc the reason you do two is one to confirm you’re human, one for training data
I promise that I’m leaving this here in good humor, although it is also true.
OP did actually use it correctly tbh, a rare case
Context, please?
AI steali…I mean harvesting, pardon learning
I’m sure blind people are happy to have the models that are built with this data, and since both the image and the description are public facing, anyone can use them including open source.
Except you need to pay Reddit to use their data for training
No. That is what data brokers and big AI companies are pushing for but currently it’s considered fair use.
Anything public facing can be used for ml and it’s been like that for quite a while. It might change based on all the ongoing lawsuit but I doubt it will, it would be economic suicide and China doesn’t care if it’s “theft”.
It’s better for us, the consumer in any case, since having to pay for data would kill the open source scene and give openai and the other 3 companies a defecto monopoly.
Helping self-driving cars and drones.
No, and it never has been
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