• Pandantic [they/them]
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    151 hour ago

    From the article’s source article:

    “She’s been in this world long enough that she certainly should know better that you can’t make threats like that in the current environment that we live in and think that we’re not going to follow up and put you in jail,” said Lakeland Police Chief Sam Taylor.

    I thought we had a legal definition of a real threat, and this isn’t it.

    • @[email protected]
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      122 hours ago

      Freeze Peach is only when they’re calling for war and lynching people they don’t like. When it comes to ACTUAL controversy you go to jail right away!

      • @[email protected]
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        21 hour ago

        nothing controversial here, almost all of us want to do something like this but are either too chicken or have dependents that we do not want to leave behind alone by going to jail.

  • Stopthatgirl7
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    Remember this the next time the cops tell someone they can’t do anything about a stalker or angry ex threatening to kill them until they actually act. They can do something. They choose not to.

  • ɔiƚoxɘup
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    She said “Delay, Deny, Depose. You people are next,” according to the article.

    • @joker125
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      Funny part is insurance companies hear worse than this all day long however this is their trigger.

      L O L

      • @[email protected]
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        61 hour ago

        previously it was at some poor customer support agent in a 3rd world country, now the danger is to the mega donors oligarchy club members.

        won’t be tolerated.

    • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed
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      You people are next

      Yea this part is not gonna look good in court.

      Just those 3 words without adding more would sound less bad, might not have gotten out of the arrest, but adding “You people are next” just ensured the arrest and charges.

      • @[email protected]
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        Yet, if some citizen tells another citizen directly, “I’m going to kill you until you are dead,” and that second citizen then goes to the police to report it, the police will respond, “we have no proof other than your hearsay, person one has to actually commit some act of violence before we can even issue a restraining order (worthless) let alone do any ‘police work.’”

        This is how it acts in citizen-to-citizen interaction in the real world. A business gets special treatment versus a citizen, yet again.

        (Regardless of how crass or inappropriate her angry comment was. Remember: America lets Nazis exist because “free speech” - it’s a huge hypocrisy.)

        • @chiliedogg
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          If you have a recording of someone threatening to kill you, the police can absolutely act.

          Threatening to kill someone unless they give you what you want is not protected speech. Otherwise, you could walk into a bank, demand they give you money under threat of violence, then walk out having committed no crimes.

          • @Shardikprime
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            Remember the time Lemmy was so outraged at the elections that they, un ironically, became Unabomber stans

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          In the Article:

          According to the affidavit, 42-year-old Briana Boston used the phrase during a call with BlueCross BlueShield about a denied claim.

          Her problem is that she said it over the phone, every company records all phone calls, they always have an automatic voice saying “this call will be recorded for quality and training purposes” that makes anything you say after implied to have given consent for the recording, bypassing any two-party comsent laws.

          I don’t dispute the fact that corporations and rich people have preferrential treatment, but having evidence like a phone call recording is what’s ultimately gonna get law enforcement to act.

          If you have a video of someone saying “I’m gonna get my gun and shoot you until your’re dead” to your face, that would probably have higher chances of getting law enforcement to act rather than just a “he said she said” heresay. No guarantees that they’ll act (cops are mostly lazy and don’t wanna do their jobs), but its much much better than just you claiming they threatened you without providing any evidence.

          • @[email protected]
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            that makes anything you say after implied to have given consent for the recording, bypassing any two-party comsent laws.

            That… doesn’t sound like two party consent to me. Are you saying that I can tell someone “I’m recording this call” and they don’t have to actually consent, they just have to not mention it?

            • @[email protected]
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              Some states you don’t even need that. I live in a one-party state, so I wouldn’t need to tell someone they’re being recorded, as long as I knew they were.

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              You can’t secretly record phone calls in two party consent states. But you can say “Just so you know, this phone call is being recorded” and if they continue to talk, they are implicitly giving consent. At least that’s how it always have worked, otherwise it would’ve been illegal for basically every company to record phone calls. Every called customer service for any reason? Notice how they all tell you that the call is recorded? Its been like this since I ever learned about phone calls. If it’s illegal, you’d be hearing about lawsuits all the time.

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                But you can say “Just so you know, this phone call is being recorded” and if they continue to talk, they are implicitly giving consent

                Which makes it kind of bullshit and not two-party, since in many cases this is effectively the only means of communicating with these companies. There is no real option to not consent, especially in the case of healthcare companies, since it’s not like a person can just choose to not have a body with real medical concerns (and in the US you legally can’t even go uninsured without penalty). Calling this “two party” at this point is a fucking joke.

                • @Shardikprime
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                  You can literally choose to not say anything about threatening or murdering someone over a recorded call.

              • @[email protected]
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                Makes sense. I don’t usually call customer service - I tend to use email or social media where possible, so that I have everything in writing with timestamps, just in case I need to refer back to it or use it as evidence.

                Does that mean I can also record them?

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                  You can. I’d also say “Just letting you know, I’m recording this phone call” just to be on the safe side.

                  I mean you could always make illegal recordings and you won’t get arrested, its just that it might not be admissible in court.

                  And if you live in a one-party consent state, its always legal to record, even when the other person is in a two-party consent state, even without informing or getting consent.

      • @Verqix
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        She didn’t say she was going to be involved in whatever the “next” thing ment. Might have been a heart-felt warning against vigilantes.Also, the “next” thing might well have been “…to get much needed care denied”.

        Legally this is so flimsy it’s a waste of time. Looking at wording from politicians there’s way more direct calls to violence which will never be prosecuted. In practice it shows the pull of big corporations with cops, and inconveniences the life of an already inconvenienced person.

      • @gift_of_gab
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        It’s weird, because I took it to mean that the people she’s talking to are going to be denied insurance in some way next.

        I mean we can assume, and it’s fairly likely, that it was a reference to the assassination, but American court is fucked if this is enough.

  • Erasmus
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    After being charged with threats to conduct a mass shooting or an act of terrorism, a judge set Boston’s bond at $100,000.

    “I do find that the bond of $100,000 is appropriate considering the status of our country at this point,” the judge said.

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        41 hour ago

        It’s because she said they’re next, and it was recorded. Threats aren’t protected speech.

      • ɔiƚoxɘup
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        Well, she actually said “Delay, Deny, Depose. You people are next,”

        That’s a pretty direct threat. The headline is misleading.

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          Where is the actual threat? You people are next, to get delayed, denied, or deposed.

        • @[email protected]
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          32 hours ago

          Pointing out that what someone is doing puts a target on their back isn’t necessarily you threatening them.

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          That’s worth 100k bond? Really? That’s more than voluntary manslaughter.

    • @[email protected]
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      For responding with the catchphrase insurance companies themselves created and live by. This isn’t the suspect’s catchphrase, but apparently even uttering these words back at health insurance companies is too much for them.

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    Delay, deny, and depose the FBI. The FBI isn’t acting like this during a Trump presidency, this is the most lenient it gets at, during a democratic presidency. With a Trump presidency, Americans should familiarize themselves with current Russian society to know what they should expect for its future. Fuck your messed up police state, Americans, and fuck a constitution that only seems to be propaganda bullshit that is too much for the FBI to live by.

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      Trump LITERARILY incited a violent mob that killed a cop and the FBI was like “ugh, we’re so weak our hands are tied 😭”

      But some lady venting over our shitty healthcare and there they go like Rambo.

      This is why people don’t trust cops, and this is why people hate the rich.

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        I agree with the end of what you wrote, but I thought the mob didn’t actually kill the police officer? I try to absorb news from diverse sources so I’m used to getting different versions of a story. I wonder which version is more spun?

        Edit after writing that comment, I looked at the wiki article about it. I guess the police officer was pepper sprayed by two rioters, one of whom got 7 years prison for that. The officer died the next day of two strokes. There was some misreporting about the cause of his death, but it was ruled natural causes. That determination also ended up a little controversial.

          • @[email protected]
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            That article isn’t very great, and since it was written just 5 days after the events, it had to be later corrected. It sounds like there were realistically only two deaths that were related to the events of the day. One was maybe crushed trying to push through a police line. One was shot by police. The officer, I already addressed in my edit he died of strokes the following day, ruled natural causes. One was a trump supporter who died of a heart attack, and another was a trump supporter who died of a stroke, but it didn’t sound like either of them were involved in the mob activity. I’d be curious to read a more recent analysis of those five people’s deaths, the wiki today doesn’t read much like that article about the police officer.

  • Queen HawlSera
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    They’re determined aren’t they? To just completely make Luigi a martyr.

  • @ConHoliousDonFrankle
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    Lol, catch phrase or actual corporate practice? Because quoting a company memo to said company is apparently a threat.

  • Lemminary
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    Her expression says I can’t believe this shit. I can’t, either.

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    This judge is just making things worse by doing this.

    After being charged with threats to conduct a mass shooting or an act of terrorism, a judge set Boston’s bond at $100,000.

    “I do find that the bond of $100,000 is appropriate considering the status of our country at this point,” the judge said.

    • @buddascrayon
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      She threatened the ruling class. And in a feudal society are not allowed to do that.

    • @[email protected]
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      How much do judges make? The average income is around 30k a year in us, and thats just the income not even saving.

    • peopleproblems
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      Interesting to note, they mentioned the Florida woman’s name, but not the judge’s.

      Interesting, interesting, interesting.

      I take it that was the the information they could get.

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        Well Lakeland is Polk county, known by people who grew up in FL as the meth capital of Florida. All arrest records are public record in Florida, so finding a judge wouldn’t be hard I imagine. First appearance court rooms should be the link below. Not sure which judge it would have been on Wednesday.

        I said Wednesday because if she was arrested Tuesday Florida does first appearances the next morning (unless it’s a weekend) https://www.jud10.flcourts.org/virtual-courtroom-links/polk-first-appearance

    • @Goodmorningsunshine
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      “Status of our country.” Lol. A fucking gilded age shithole where the rich a finally being treated like the outta be?

    • @[email protected]
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      “The working class is being oppressed to the point of breaking, so we better just keep them all locked up.”

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      Fucking florida. It’s like they all live there to prove a just god does not exist as they haven’t been washed away yet despite it being fucking florida.

      • @Trashcan
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        The beatings will continue until moral improves.

      • @ThePyroPython
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        No, but in 10 to 20 years nature will be doing the Lord’s work.

  • @shiroininja
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    Threatening the hospital that was denying my father care, leaving him to die, was the only way I got into the literal board room to reason with them. I got them to resume treatment after they dicked around for a month and he refused to leave because he was going to die if he left.

    He still died because he was so sick at that point that they couldn’t do the procedure he needed when he first arrived.

    So I threatened them in 2010, and I’d fucking do it again now for my child. We are supposed to stand up for our loved ones.

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      got them to resume treatment after they dicked around for a month and he refused to leave because he was going to die if he left.

      I had to play this card once, too. I was in the cardiac unit for 28 days, and they were going to send me home because they couldn’t figure out what was wrong, and the insurance decided I wasn’t worth the expense anymore.

      I refused to leave until they gave me a diagnosis, because i would have just died otherwise.

      Pretty sure the healthcare system still wants that.

    • @obre
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      It’s disgusting. There needs to be legal recognition of all that is at stake for patients and their families. The denial of necessary care is structural violence and should be treated as such by everyone.

      • @shiroininja
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        Financial extermination. But threat of violence would’ve been my next step in trial and error. It’s my family… I’d do anything for them. People even told me I should’ve. It was a tough situation and I was young. A little younger than Luigi.

      • @FordBeeblebrox
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        Fear can be a very powerful motivator, as everyone one rent check away from the street knows. It’s time for the leeches to feel some of that fear

        • @buddascrayon
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          You need to reread what the judge said when he set her bail. When the rich become afraid for their lives they send their law enforcement after those people they are afraid of and they fill the jails that they own with the people who have inspired their fear.

          All this fervor is not going to result in a changing of healthcare. Not with our newly minted Republican Congress and a douche canoe for a president. No all of this is going to result in a curbing of our free speech rights and a deadlier police state than we already live in. To say nothing of what’s going to happen to our voting rights in the next 4 years.

  • @FelixCress
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    So, no free speech in the US after all?

    • @jaybone
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      You can free speech on X and truthsocial about shooting Mexicans. But you can’t free speech on other platforms about shooting CEOs.

      Because “free speech” can only align with the platform you are on. If it doesn’t align, then it is some other form of speech which is not allowed. Very simple.

    • @QuincyPeck
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      Depends on how much money you have.

    • wagesj45
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      Yes, actually, I am. This is nowhere near an actionable threat and arresting her over it is insanity and should be criminal itself.

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        It was the, “You people are next”. If she had just used his catchphrase I doubt we’d be here.

    • @orrk
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      please, the free speech brigade only protects important speech, like calling for minority executions

    • @[email protected]
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      You need the credible threat cheat code. We should vote to make it legal to kill health insurance CEOs.