• @RagingRobot
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    241 minutes ago

    These artists should switch platforms because the query string isn’t the only way they can track attribution. If they see people doing this they will just switch to something else if they don’t already use another method as well.

    • @[email protected]
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      16 hours ago

      They banned porn?? I used to follow Gumroad’s founder on Twitter, he seemed like a good person.

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️
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      I’m only familiar with Gumroad because a lot of artists use it to sell their VRChat avatars and 3D printing files. I wasn’t keen on the fact that a few items I went to buy weren’t actually still for sale and the only thing telling you this was after you attempted to make the purchase.

    • @MashedTech
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      57 hours ago

      No, it’s just one of many. I’ve purchased stuff from gum road before.

  • @solrize
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    11119 hours ago

    We need browser extensions to kill those tags automatically.

      • @[email protected]
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        4318 hours ago

        This is definitely what it’s supposed to do (and a great feature) but unfortunately it doesn’t work that well. Have tried this many times, especially with Amazon links, and it seems to be a bit inconsistent in its effectiveness.

        • @[email protected]
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          16 hours ago

          If a platform gets traction and is good at removing them, then links will be more obfuscated to deal with it.

        • Echo Dot
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          You probably also need to clear your cookies as well. I can’t really see this being done only via GET

          • @[email protected]
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            67 hours ago

            Yeah, I cannot imagine any reason they wouldn’t use cookies to track this. The moment you arrive via an affiliate link they’re going to know that that’s how you got to the site for that session.

          • @[email protected]
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            17 hours ago

            I don’t understand. Cookies and request method are two different things. You can set cookies on GET.

      • @solrize
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        419 hours ago

        Oh nice, that is pretty new, but will have to see if it works on those gumroad links. I have an offline script (not a browser extension, I haven’t bothered figuring out how to write those) that edits urls to remove tracking and it’s quite a pain, since there are dozens of sites and tracking schemes it has to know about. Also, rather than creating a pasteable url, a suitable browser extension should just rewrite the link automatically before navitation when you click on it.

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        Hmm, I thought ublock origin could only block links, not rewrite them. Am I missing something? I just looked through the docs and only see block/allow/noop rules, and I remember reading something a while back about how the devs didn’t want to rewrite. I’d love to have a pointer to the docs about how to do this if I’m wrong. Thanks ;)

        Added: https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/b9tdky/rule_for_redirecting_urls_to_cleaner_ones/ points to some github issues related to this.

          • @solrize
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            117 hours ago

            Thanks! I saw the GH issue about that but didn’t figure out that it had been deployed.

      • @[email protected]
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        418 hours ago

        This is about removing tracking arguments that identify users, this is not the case here.

        The example in your link even show it’s keeping campaign tracking arguments. So I’m pretty sure it would keep the one we are talking about here.

  • @[email protected]
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    3218 hours ago

    A dumb policy with perhaps an even dumber implementation. Basing profit sharing percentages off query parameters 🫨 ?

    • @[email protected]
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      That’s how basically all affiliate links work.

      This time it’s just the merchant getting more or less from the creator. vs doing the split with the linker and the merchant.

      Also 10% is pretty low, normally merchants take like 30% cut by default so they have plenty to share.

    • @[email protected]
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      1118 hours ago

      The parameters are how you get to the store.

      If the creator is driving the traffic, Gumroad takes 10%. If Gumroad is driving the traffic, they take a commission of 30%

        • @[email protected]
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          58 hours ago

          Not any more than any other tracking method. They control it all.

          If anything, the fact that they give you a method to alter how your purchase is tracked so you can still give the creator 90% when you get to them through their store is pro-creator.

          • @[email protected]
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            The ability to alter the tracking is an exploit, not a feature. Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad it’s possible, but it seems more a result of a lazy implementation rather than a generous choice.

            Not any more than any other tracking method.

            This isn’t true. There are more opaque ways to track this like cookies, redirects (triggering an api call), and scripts. These could also be exploited depending on how they’re done, but it would be way less obvious than just changing the URI.

            It just seems like they chose the simplest method, thus hampering the effectiveness of their greed.

            • @[email protected]
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              148 minutes ago

              All the solution you proposed have big tradeoffs. Most would require to run some code on the site where the URL is, which is often not an option. And they would not work if the link is shared between people. For a lot of cases the solution they used seems to be the best one.

            • @[email protected]
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              05 hours ago

              Wait, you’re complaining that end users can change it?

              Yes, there are ways the website could prevent that. I’m not sure why that goal serves any purpose, though. Defaults are going to get them the vast majority of the commissions they earn, and being simple and easy for users who really want to reward the creators more to do so is worth the negligible cost.

              Getting commission on sales you make isn’t greed.

  • @[email protected]
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    3820 hours ago

    OK, I think the real solution is that I’m never using Gumroad again. Sad, as some really good and stuff was in there

  • @whaleross
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    718 hours ago

    Enshittification seems damn inevitable these days.