• bluGill
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    Why would it? most people have never experienced good transit, just transit for those who after a few dwi’s can’t get their friends to drive them anymore. Transit money feels like throwing good money after bad. most republicans honestly embrace this

    meanwhile the democrats see transit as getting other people (poor, or at least someone else) off the road so they don’t care if a proposal that wouldn’t work for them becauseemost can’t imangine using it anyway. They alse see getting these someone else’s off the road as green which they hope is enough to solve global warming without having to make changes themself

    Democrats also see transit money as a way to bring on jobs or art - either way the more they spend on small segments the better. it never occurs to them that cheap projecs can do more and since transit is about the network that would inthe long run result in transit they would use.

    the above is a generalization. there are excaptions on both sides (though more democrats) who care about transit. this probably includes everyone reading this. How do we change the majority is the question. you will probahly cry when you admit the truth of the above.

  • @SkunkWorkz
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    712 hours ago

    Those tunnels are a death trap. The person who approved it should be investigated

    • @[email protected]
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      311 hours ago

      And they’ll throw their arms up and say “who could have predicted that ???” When something terrible happens (conveniently ignoring decades of road tunnels accidents and the safeties precautions we learned from them)

    • @[email protected]OPM
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      212 hours ago

      Yeah, EV batteries and very narrow tunnel (so narrow you can’t open the car door apparently) is a bad combination

  • @[email protected]
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    18 hours ago

    The thing that never ceases to astound me in the US is that the barrier for entry to public transport is so hilariously low, they have effectively nothing in most places so it’s absolutely trivial to quintuple the amount of public transport users in a few years if they just tried, and yet most places do NOTHING

    There is such an unmet demand for public transport that a bus startup should be eminently viable, but nope, no one even seems to be trying.
    Meanwhile in europe we already generally have at worst decent public transport and yet companies like flixbus exist, which i don’t even understand how they have ridership when they run routes parallel to railways that take like twice as long while obviously being less comfortable…

    • @[email protected]OPM
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      18 hours ago

      flixbus exist, which i don’t even understand how they have ridership when they run routes parallel to railways that take like twice as long while obviously being less comfortable…

      Would you mind explaining more? How’s Flixbus?

      • @[email protected]
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        so the way public transport generally works —in sweden at least— is that the bulk of it is managed by the regional government and uses a zone system (like the oyster cards in london i think). Then ontop of that there’s SJ, the national train operator, which has its own generally separate ticket system that is more traditional where you book a specific departure between two stations.

        Then outside of this you also have fully private public transport companies, of which the major ones are VR trains between stockholm-gothenburg, snälltåget which runs night trains from the north to south (sometimes down to hamburg/berlin), and flixbus which runs a bunch of routes throughout sweden.

        so the strange thing about flixbus is that it runs a bunch of routes that take you between the same places as the trains can, in a less comfortable vehicle, and absolutely fucking hilariously slower.
        For example gothenburg-stockholm is 3-4 hours by train and flixbus takes 6-7 hours.

        There are some reasons i can see to opt for flixbus, most obvious being that it does serve places where getting to the trains is otherwise inconvenient and it can be like half the price, but it still astonishes me that a completely for-profit company finds that a sensible thing to operate here.

  • @[email protected]
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    310 hours ago

    Wait, how a tunnel can make a profit? Do you have to pay to have a privilege to drive through it?

  • @workerONE
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    The Vegas loop is a 2 mile tunnel accessible only to Teslas. It’s not solving any problems. They want to expand it- I don’t think that will go well.

  • @[email protected]
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    1315 hours ago

    The problem it can’t solve is that rich people might have to interact with mere humans. The car in a tube seats four and locks, so there’s zero chance you’ll have to sit next to a minority.

    I wonder if rail would be more appealing to them if the coaches were designed as multiple isolated cells that seated 4-6, rather than straight-through corridors that permit mingling. (I’ve seen some old designs like that, in German narrow-gauge form)

    • @[email protected]
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      19 hours ago

      i continue to weep for the death of Per Albin Hansson, the old social democrat leader who was so steadfast in riding the tram home to his apartment that he’s known for his death happening immediately after stepping off the tram (heart attack) when he could have chosen to be driven home by another politician.

    • @[email protected]OPM
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      514 hours ago

      The problem it can’t solve is that rich people might have to interact with mere humans.

      I can relate. We, in Indonesia, have a problem where politicians, whose never even ride a train before, gets to decide the policies about public transport, and those who gets the consequenece is low-middle class who uses public transport. There was a meme from a year ago where a tone-deaf politician says the overcrowded trains in Jakarta doesn’t exist even though it overcrowding is clearly a problem in regional line (KRL) due to lack of trains.

      I wonder if rail would be more appealing to them if the coaches were designed as multiple isolated cells that seated 4-6, rather than straight-through corridors that permit mingling.

      Assuming we’re talking about short distance trains, absolutely no, lol. It’s just space inefficient. I will understand if it is a long distance trains, and it is a thing.

    • @[email protected]
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      315 hours ago

      You think public transit would be better if there were more obstructed sight-lines? Hunh. Are you also volunteering for mop duty if that’s not actually how things turn out?

  • @jordanlund
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    515 hours ago

    I mean, light rail seems to be pretty effective in Portland, the problems it does have don’t really seem to be efficiency related.

    1. Crime.
      https://www.kgw.com/article/news/crime/stabbing-portland-max-gateway-transit-center/283-e7d8681f-b6fa-4f2e-801a-2880b8f60eaa

    https://www.opb.org/article/2024/10/23/portland-max-stabbing-crime-trimet-death-oregon-bus-lawsuit/

    https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2024/07/max-train-murderer-jeremy-christians-convictions-stand-court-of-appeals-rejects-all-his-arguments.html

    1. Snow and ice makes the tracks and switches fail all the time. If it’s snowing, stay home.

    https://www.koin.com/news/portland/extensive-damage-max-service-remains-suspended-due-to-winter-weather/

    1. Hot weather makes the overhead power lines expand causing trains to have to slow down. If it’s near or over 100°, stay home.

    https://trimet.org/alerts/hotweather.htm

    • @[email protected]OPM
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      414 hours ago

      Thanks for the reply. TIL about the Portland’s LRT. After watching a video about it [1], my impression about the LRT is that it seems like one of the best LRT in North America.

      The crime part is really unfortunate though, and I doubt there is anything the LRT can do about it as it’s not their fault, rather, it’s probably a systematic problem, cmiiw.

      [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpfRKqy96_E

  • @[email protected]
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    315 hours ago

    Musk is not “people in the US”, and most of those have no say in what “gets built”, so rephrase your blame, fellow crab in the bucket.

    • @[email protected]OPM
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      214 hours ago

      Yeah, should have rephrased that. AFAIK Elon is a South African, not even US citizen right?

      I’m not even from USA to be clear, but my limited image of USA is that it lacks efforts of building public transport, especially compared to other developed countries. Heck, compared to developing countries even.

      One of the example, US seems like a perfect place to build a high-speed rail network. Yet, CAHSR seems to keep getting delayed. In comparison Morocco has a HSR. Even Indonesia has one opened last year.

      • @[email protected]
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        111 hours ago

        You’re gonna love the history rabbit hole re: the automotive industry lobbying and all but singlehandedly squashing rail expansion (see: highways), NGL. 👨🏽‍🍳

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          I think we should stop saying “lobbying” and start saying “corruption” or “bribing” isntead

          • @[email protected]
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            111 hours ago

            I see what you’re getting at, but by saying either and meaning “lobbying”, we’re fighting their side for them, allowing it to expand by being obtuse. We deserve better. “Lobbying” has become lobbying, and calling it what it is names it.

  • @theUwUhugger
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    But hadn‘t the city paid for those tunnels? How on earth does Elon own them?