• @doppelgangmember
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    1 year ago

    Or tax the corporations responsible for 70% and leave me the f alone about MY behavior

    • @ghostBonesOP
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      41 year ago

      Very valid point. The argument here is that without a shift in consciousness of our entire species we’re never going to be able to address the problem, we have to push for a world that completely disapproves of pollution and polluters. People used to not care about littering, but somehow we managed to make it a bad thing and we got the result we wanted. 'Basically the same principle. It wasn’t just anti-littering policy that did it, it was people being disgusted with their communities being trashed.

      • @doppelgangmember
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        11 year ago

        Let me clarify too

        I do all I reasonably can. Don’t drive an SUV, used to be on a plant-based diet, etc. None of that matters in the grand scheme of this information sadly.

        I’m all for evolving as a species and adopting new technologies. The problem lies with those who resist change and get stuck in their ways shrugging off adoption.

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          We have to make the behavior of people that are destroying our global ecosystem shameful and intolerable, that’s how I see this article. I’ve never seen societal change occur without a collective shift in perspective. This article tries to make that process more understandable because we are short on time. It is a process that has been repeating throughout human history.

          As far as personal efforts and struggle to help, I don’t really see it as relevant to this particular discussion. The contemporary human tendency to see global issues as a personal issue is decidedly Western. This goes beyond self, and the western obsession with selfhood. The fact that your efforts aren’t helping does not create a basis for dismissing and disregarding the severity of the issue. Forgive me if that’s rude, what I’m saying is this is not at all personal and about recycling habits. This is about creating a collective consciousness of disapproval that grows to a size where it can no longer be ignored or dismissed for the sake of profit and gain.

          Child labor was perfectly okay until everyone decided that it was not okay. This is the crux of the article. If you look at history, it is moments like that that determine subsequent history.

          It’s about everyone collectively deciding that they’ve had enough of something. We are up against PR machines and lots of other opinion modifiers to make it seem like our perspective is invalid. We have to overcome that.

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              21 year ago

              I very much appreciate you, for the opportunity to constructively discuss this.