I’m using Proton right now. Someone suggest I should get a Gmail instead for higher chance of success. Is that true? How risky is it for Google sanning those mails in terms of privacy?
if your domain is like cock.li or smth then maybe, but protonmail.com sounds pretty professional
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It’s all good, especially now that they have proton.me when it was protonmail.com I had some issues saying it over the phone as some people didn’t understand and it is long to spell.
I don’t see any reason why it would affect your application(s) in the slightest. A good CV is a good CV. You could have @goatfondler.com for all I care.
Great! I can finally relax about my @ryongnamsan.edu.kp email.
I don’t think it should matter and if it did matter, do you really want to work for such small-minded judgmental people? The people who would care about an uncommon email domain would probably also see it as a “red flag” if you say that you don’t use certain social media sites. Don’t waste your time playing pointless image games.
I use public@mydomain. Hasn’t negatively affected me. I created a burner Gmail account for a Google Meet interview and then tossed it aside after. I’ve been hired for two jobs in eight years using the public@ address.
Protonmail is a widely used and common email provider. There is no reason why an employer would be prejudiced against your application based on you having a Protonmail address. I think a far more common thing employers think about when seeing applicants’ email addresses are things like “haha, they’re still using their email address from when they were 8 of alexdaboss at gmail dot com”, but I highly doubt they care about what domain it’s on unless you’ve got like a pornhub.com address or something.
No job/recruiter/interviewer will ever care about what email provider you use.
It depends.
I judge people harshly for still using yahoo email. You disgusting fucks know who you are. Just look at yourselves. Ugh. /s
i still have the yahoo account i created back in the 90’s and i can’t rid of it because of the nostalgia it inspires, so i mostly use it for spam whenever some random site wants me to sign up.
What do you think they think when they see an AOL email
Proton leaked a user’s IP address to law enforcement, you should seek alternatives. source: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/09/privacy-focused-protonmail-provided-a-users-ip-address-to-authorities/
They complied with a swiss court order, what’s surprising there?
Alternatives like Tuta would be subject to the jurisdiction of the Germany, and Germany’s laws are not as good as Switzerland, as they are part of the 14 Eyes. You don’t actually believe alternatives like Tuta would defy a court order, right?
(Pro tip: Maybe use a VPN to hide your IP. ProtonVPN is subject to different laws as Protonmail and if the activist have used the VPN, their IP would not have been leaked)
Unfortunately, I have seen some CEO’s that will refuse employees using anything other than major services, like Google, Apple, etc.
I did see one specifically mention he will not interview anyone with a Proton email address because it wasn’t considered “professional”.
It’s certainly ridiculous, but big business is ridiculous.
You Def don’t want to work there then. Problem solved. Ceo is a fuck-face.
I work in HR. No one cares.
If someone legitimately cares what email provider you use and uses that against you in the hiring process, chances are it’s not a place you’d want to work anyway.
What if the email is
.com?Nope 0 fucks given. Or would have to be @ashleymadison or @pornhub or something. and even then it may just net you an interview.
They likely have too much experience.
Or a
hotmail.comoneHey, I still got one.
This is my exact feeling.
When places look at resumes, they’re looking at communication skills, education, experience, and work history. They’re looking for lies and exaggerations. The poor bastards have probably been through 60 resumes a day and they’re just hoping to find a keyword here or there that isn’t like the other 60 resumes.
If they’re unscrupulous they’re also looking at your name and trying to figure out your race/gender.
As long as the email address and content you provide exudes professionalism, and the email works, They don’t care at all.
As far as privacy, forget it. The business you are working with is already certainly using Microsoft or Google, they’re vetting your email address and content through a spam filter. In most cases you are private email has no longer private the second it gets to any company.
I thought Google Workspace mailboxes aren’t scanned?
They do say that. And I can’t say they’d tell us if they started. But for the moment let’s assume they still don’t. I also can’t say that they’d tell us if the government asked them to. But let’s put a pin in that too.
They do not claim not to scan the SMTP and mail transport. We know that they do scan it try to discern spam.
Do you trust them not to sell that juicy email they just scanned from an external email address?
Google Workspaces still have spam filtering in place, it’d be unusable if not. Admins can create rules for additional scanning if needed. You could also check the MX record to see if you’re actually sending to Google first, or a third party scanner who then forwards to Google Workspace.
A lot of companies use Google mail anyways so your emails will be scanned regardless.
That probably depends more on what is before the @. Is your mailadress a gamertag or some random thing you came up with as a teen? “Superbunny69” probably has a lower chance of success than “lastn.firstname”
Maybe I am an odd duck, but when I have been the guy looking at resumes and shit, I made a note not to read peoples email addresses. I don’t care if your email is cumdumpster19 I care if you know how to configure a firewall. But I think most people look for reason to round file a resume and not reasons to say yes to an applicant.
The roles I’ve hired for require formal presentation of work/studies with a certain level of attention to detail, and more internal politics than I care to admit.
So while its never the sole deciding factor in a resume I do put weight on spelling, formatting, and general professionalism. If your email is
firekitten22@aol.com, orjon@sirfapsalot.netI’m not immediately binning it, but you are starting from a disadvantage.stephanie@harmlessdomain.comis always gonna be just fine though.I’m changing my name to Stephanie right now, and buying harmlessdomain.com if it’s available! Then I’ll always be fine!
IT sector probably is a lot different in hiring practices than some typical management jobs
This is exactly my take as well. The means by which you got your CV on my desk is irrelevant to me. In fact, the CV itself is like the pretty picture on a bottle of wine that persuades me to choose it over the other basically identical pinots. And shorts and a t–shirt looks as professional to me as a suit. Actually better because suits give me C suite vibes. I literally only want to have a conversation and see how much you sound like you’ve done this before and know how to not fuck it up.
Sorry to bother you but, any recommendations for several year work gap on my resume ?
As others have commented, a gap in your resume shouldn’t even be a part of the conversation since it’s just an absence of anything that would be relevant to the hiring process. Doesn’t mean you won’t be asked though, unfortunately, and I have experience being the candidate with a long gap, so I can tell you how I handled this.
Sitting on the hiring side of the table, my only concern is that you weren’t just twiddling your thumbs. If you had personal matters to take care of, unpaid projects to focus on, family to look after, that is all part of life and none of my business. When explaining my own employment gap, I was frank about how my previous appointment had taken its toll on my mental health, and that I wanted to reconnect with other aspects of my life before taking on another role. I didn’t go into any specifics, but made sure to mention that part of this time was spent studying stuff that’s relevant in my field and exploring emerging technologies.
No matter how long a gap, it’s not something you should acknowledge or attempt to explain in your resume or cover letter, and it’s not something you need to bring up yourself in the interview. My view is that it’s bad etiquette to even ask, and you should try to adopt this mentality yourself so that you project confidence if you have to answer the question. You have nothing to hide or be ashamed of. Your life is more than your CV.
Thanks to everyone who replied with advice. Appreciate it a lot.
- “Taking care of a family member” has worked for a few people
- Having cancer. It’s not just the cancer, the treatment is pretty hard on the body and mind. It’s been five years now and I don’t know if I will ever be able to get back to work.
What you did with that time is our own business. The only thing that matters is why your current skills are relevent for the job.
experience teaches me that your likeability matters more
YMMV based on the company you’re applying to and how thoroughly theyre going to vet past work history, but I managed to land my current job by just putting “June 2024” as my leaving date instead of “June 2022” and just said the company recently restructured and did layoffs.
And “firstname.purpose”?
How risky is it for Google sanning those mails in terms of privacy?
Afraid to tell you but Google already scans thousands emails if you use proton or not. The company you are sending mail to likely uses gmail internally. Does not matter how private your end is if the other end is wide open.
Though I am not convinced that anyone would care if you use a non gmail account for any technical role. Hell add a custom domain to proton and you can hide the fact you are using proton and create a even more professional looking address.
I tried, and failed hard. When I bought my domain 10 years ago, I didn’t put efforts in reseaching domain reputation and got a .xyz tld. Now that tld smmes to be abused by spammer and also affecting my mail which go straight into spam folder.
