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Summary
Luigi Mangione, accused of murdering UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, has asked his supporters to limit the number of photos they send him to 5 at a time due to overwhelming volume and screening delays.
Charged with murder, he has pleaded not guilty. Mangione’s case sparked debate about healthcare, with supporters sending fan mail and donations.
His legal defense fund has raised over $615,000. He expressed gratitude for the letters, acknowledging support across “political, racial, and even class divisions.”
Mangione also faces federal and Pennsylvania charges. His attorney argues he’s being treated differently, held in federal custody.
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Why does he have a ballistic vest on?
Because the media and prosecutors are trying to make him look like a cold hard killer who deserves no sympathy.
CEOs are powerful dangerous people
He’s more important than the president, that’s why
Now that is quite funny.
There’s a good chance he’ll be in prison for the rest of his life. In that eventuality, in order to ensure he feels continually supported over time, you should use a random number generator to decide how many years to wait before sending him a letter. (Doesn’t mean you can’t also send him one now.)
If you are using a random number generator, use it to pick a number of days, not years. Spread the letters over the year.
Even he thinks yall are cringe
At last week’s hearing Agnifilo argued that her client is being “treated differently than other defendants,” pointing to the fact that he’s being held in federal custody rather than state custody, even though the state case is coming first.
This is gonna be the crux of the defensive strategy.
At every point this case has been treated differently due to the wealth and power of the CEO. And they’re going to ask every person that sits in the stand why they think it’s been different.
Why this CEO dying is such a big deal, but the huge amount of people that died due to his decisions isnt.
That and pressing the cops on how they really figured out who he was, and the mystery guy that tipped off the person who called it in and a rapid response team “just happened” to be ready and waiting.
They clearly used illegal methods to actually find him, and that can throw out a whole trial on its own.
Like, I’ve been saying it since he was accused, he could very well get off Scott free.
Meanwhile the Mayor of NYC gets to prance through the rules. They also have done a shitty shitty job with handling this case. They didn’t read him his rights. They released key information on tv before providing it to the defense! The whole army of people to transport him! The complete lack of any scrutiny on the healthcare industry further about what led to this in the first place! god knows these insurance companies will continue to exploit unabated. Especially during this “administration”.
Like, I’ve been saying it since he was accused, he could very well get off
Scottscot-freeFTFY. I agree with everything you’re saying; I just have this weird compulsion to correct misused homophones. A “scot” is an archaic word for a tax (unrelated to being of Scottish descent, AFAIK), so the term isn’t anything to do with a person named Scott. Pedantic, I know, but I really can’t help myself, so… Sorry? You’re welcome?
Either way, have a nice day.
Nah man. I knew this dude Scott in kindergarten, and that guy just got away with everything…
/S
Thanks for the correction tho, details matter these days
Free Scott and Free Hat!
Oooo member mccullough
Learned something new! Love it.
I agree it’s scot-free, but I always thought it was because under Scottish Law, the verdict in a murder trial can be Guilty, Not Guilty, or Not Proven. In the 3rd case you escape punishment but everyone thinks you did it. Which can be good or bad for your standing in the community, depending on why the jury chose that verdict.
Your answer, being slightly duller and more pedantic, is probably the correct one.
I’m not an etymology expert, but I did see a few sources that all claimed scot came from a Scandinavian word “skat,” which was a redistributive tax (Source)
I do like your explanation, too, though. The other explanation I’ve heard a few times was that it was related to the Dred Scott case regarding an escaped slave who petitioned the Supreme Court in an attempt to gain his freedom (it didn’t work, though, so I’m not sure why people would claim that to be the origin of the phrase “Scott free” anyway)
TIL
Like, I’ve been saying it since he was accused, he could very well get off Scott free.
Given the fact that law enforcement has provided evidence and interviews for a bullshit pseudo-documentary without even providing it to the defense, it certainly brings up the possibility that they might think that evidence won’t be admissible in court. So they’re trying to taint the public, and thus the jury pool, with whatever story they want.
For sure.
I’d say like a 95% chance they OJ this and fuck it up.
Our justice system isn’t used to doing things the right way, they’re used to people taking plea deals.
So in high profile cases with pressure to solve, they’re sloppy. They rush and use illegal means before a plausible way to have solved it can show up.
Tainted evidence taints everything that comes out from it, it’s a poison tree and none of the fruits are admissible evidence because of that.
The really huge part is when it starts going trump won’t be able to ignore it being a bigger media story, he’s going to weigh in, and he’ll either piss off a lot of regular people, or a bunch of billionaires.
My pessimistic side tells me that the judges see themselves as the same class as the CEOs. They can “overlook” a lot of problems with a case if they choose.
They’ve been holding a system up that fucks us everyday for centuries, they will continue to do it.
Why this CEO dying is such a big deal but the huge amount of people that died due to his decisions isnt.
I seriously doubt that this sentiment will be part of their defense. They will not argue that the victim deserved it. That is not a legal defense for murder in the first place, and it would be based on the premise that Luigi is in fact guilty of murder. That would be a really bad way to defend their client.
They probably will establish that his treatment was unusual and harsher than typical for other defendents through documented facts. They may even bring police or prison staff to the stand to ask them about their views on the case that may establish cause for the unequal treatment (beyond happenstance). They may even extrapolate that into how that bias that led to his unequal treatment may draw into question the trustworthiness of the evidence gathered when so many authority figures have demonstrated an abnormal bias against the defendent and whether all due process and procedure was followed as legally required. Whether the police had probable cause before the arrest, whether the correct court has jurisdiction, whether the jury could have been biased against the defendent by the way the authorities framed the facts and events, etc.
But at no point will they ask about the CEO’s victims or anyone’s feelings on that matter. It just won’t be relevant or helpful in this murder trial. Morally relevant, yes. Legally, no.
They will not argue that the victim deserved it
That’s different.
They’ll highlight the amount of resources and actions that were taken to apprehend him along with his treatment since arrest to show it is not normal treatment.
But never give a possible reason why his treatment was/is unusual.
It’s going right up to saying what I quoted, but stopping a sentence before the judge has to say “objection”.
Like, that’s what lawyering to a jury is…
Walking them up to the conclusion you want, and making them believe they “figured it out”.
Some as running a con, that’s why the Venn Diagram of succesful lawyers and wealthy conmen looks like a solar eclipse.
They “just ask questions”.
That’s more likely, yes. That is still dangerous though. If the makeup of the jury is generally anti-vigilante justice, then bringing them to that point may backfire.
Yeah, but if they don’t need to get to that step
Defendant was treated unusually and prejudiciually in public view prior to the trial.
The defense doesn’t need the “why”, it’s just icing
Judges don’t say “objection”. Opposing council does.
It’ll be interesting to see if they are able to put the CEO on trial here, like they do with rape victims. Was the CEO
dressed sluttycomplicit in the deaths of others? Did the CEO entice him bydancing sexyleading the industry in denying rightful claims? Did the CEO agree tohave sex with himpay peoples’ medical bills and then reneg at the last second?This could be a very interesting trial.
I agree it would be very interesting of they put the corpse of the CEO on the stand and asked those questions.
“find him”. I’m still not fully convinced he did it. He legit does not look like the original pictures from the surveillance footage. His nose looks way smaller and less crooked than that footage.
Asking people on the stand why it’s such a big deal is insanely biased.
He was a dude that got shot. Happens hundreds of times, it’s not any different.
And yet in this case, among so many other discrepancies, they want the death penalty for the shooter. Why is Mangione being treated like a terrorist for one death, but school shooters are not?
Did any of those kids that were murdered have yachts?
If not, it’s probably because they are lesser people, because better people tend to be smarter and make more money or whatever bullshit pathway that allows people that are not billionaires to continually force themselves to feel related to them while cheering for the next shit end of the stick.
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While I hope for mistrial, I’m comforted that at least he knows how wildly popular he is. Nobody wants to die, but if they do rig it to make an example of him, he can die knowing his message was heard.
Still, here’s hoping for a happier outcome!
we can do anything you want except stop loving you.
Please note that every photo that is received is screened and reviewed by law enforcement.
The law enforcement agent that has to review all the nudes I keep sending.
Hm. Do they review everything? Sounds like it’s time to send tonnes and tonnes of stories about people who have gotten significantly hurt and/or died as a direct result from the actions of insurance companies.
Someone I know is making preparations for their death this year because they need surgeries and medical care quoted upwards of $500,000USD, insurance won’t do shit, and they can’t solve this economically. They’re not even 30 years old.
In my country, the most they’d have to pay is around $140USD.
Sounds like they should visit you for a while
Yeah, I’ve had those thoughts too. Unfortunately it only applies if you are a resident or a citizen, if not then they’d bill your health insurance or state or what have you.
They can send the bill wherever, as long as they receive the treatment first.
Better that than the alternative
New hobby, send thousands of random internet dick pics to random prisoners so prison guards have to screen them all 😂
Not just dick pics. Pics of dicks infected with STDs. Wikipedia can help with that.
Or maybe just beautiful dicks and send them to the most homophobic prisoners that got jailed for like murdering gay people or something so rumours spread in the prison.
They probably killed the gay people because they were actually gay. We should send them photos of diseased pussy so they can’t get that out of their head and the only thing they can think about is dick.
Keep in mind that everything he gets has to be screened. This means that the more things he gets from random people, the longer the screening line is, which will certainly slow delivery of things from people close to him. And he needs those things a lot more right now.
He’s aware of the level of support he has. If you want to continue to support him, do so by contributing to his legal defense fund. Sending things to him in jail anymore has reached the “diminishing returns” stage now, I think.
If you want to write him stuff. Set a 2 year reminder from now. Talk to him when things die down. Right now there are way too many people sending him mail for him to reply to anything.
You can also look up prison penpal charities. Think of all the lonley people in prison who don’t have fame.
If you are from area where you can be a juror on his case, don’t donate and don’t talk about him online as this will disqualify you.
A man can never receive enough photos of tits so I will have to disagree with you, even if I do agree with the overall sentiment.
I believe those sorts of photos would not reach him anyway.
even mantits ?
Photos of what? Nudes? Cat pictures?
Nude cat pictures :o
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That’s not a cat, that’s a gremlin
I really don’t like these cats. Some people think they’re cute, all I can see is a brain with legs
Shaved pussy.
There were some pretty sexual deviant types in the music world back in the thirties.
You mean, like, those hairless cats?
Yes
probably both
A cat who wears a Dickie. Stylin’.
“Due to the volume of photos, they could take longer than usual to be screened and shared. Luigi appreciates the photos that are sent and kindly asks that people send no more than five photos at a time. Please note that every photo that is received is screened and reviewed by law enforcement.”
. . . “I am overwhelmed by - and grateful for - everyone who has written me to share their stories and express their support. Powerfully, this support has transcended political, racial, and even class divisions, as mail has flooded MDC from across the country, and around the globe,” Mangione’s statement said. “While it is impossible for me to reply to most letters, please know that I read every one that I receive. Thank you again to everyone who took the time to write. I look forward to hearing more in the future.”
I appreciate the rise of folk heroes of all varieties but I think Chris Kluwe’s act is more my speed and within the capacity of many others. Hopefully it sets him up to be able to run for office next year.
Folk heroes are great in all sizes; but I am in more of the mindset of “what have you done for me recently?”
One increased some health benefits for some people due to fear of people copying him; the other got noticed by the press yet changed nothing. One was inconvenienced for a few hours, the other threw away his future
That’s certainly one way of looking at it.
I prefer to see Kluew’s act as not so self-containing; that is, it’s an investment for running for office in the future and substantively changing the laws from the top down. I’d have much preferred Luigi enter politics with that handsome mug of his and fight the good fight alongside the likes of Sanders, AOC, Maxwell Frost, Crockett, et. al. For that is treating the root problem as opposed to merely the symptoms.
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