• cub Gucci@lemmy.today
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    1 year ago

    Hmm… Maybe, just maybe, the problem is not the tourists, but ever increasing rent?

    I remember the first years of Airbnb - met a ton of lovely hosts, lived in their abodes with them in the next room. BnB alike. Now, Airbnb provides “hotels” which are in direct competition with long term rentals.

    This is not a tourist problem, never has been.

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      Blaming who needs to be blamed is too much work. So let’s blame tourists, immigrants, minorities, etc. Doesn’t matter the country.

      People are too fucking stupid and spineless to blame the rich.

      • Laser@feddit.org
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        The difference is that tourists are not a somehow disadvantaged group. My livelihood isn’t endangered because I can’t go to a tourist spot in Spain somewhere without being heckled (though, when I actually was in Spain, everyone was nice, but Madrid isn’t that much of a tourist spot compared to others).

        Also, in some cases, it isn’t “the rich” – I too love to point out the issues they cause – but sometimes, it’s just ordinary people hoping to make a quick buck buying up property to rent it out on AirBNB. Yes, it’s also rich foreigners getting property everywhere for themselves, which is a problem. But “the rich” don’t bother with AirBNB, they just build hotels, and these normally don’t compete with normal housing.

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          Look, if this was about fucktards like Johnny Somali, I’d get it. But not every tourist is deserving of said treatment.

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        Because they vow to be rich too. If you wish away someone else’s Lamborgini, you’ll also have to give up your own dreams of owning a Lamborgini (Kit cars are better, but would be hard to pull off with the modern no right to repair mentality).

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          Crazy. I’d be OK with a Pinto if it meant my electric bill wasn’t $500.

    • phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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      1 year ago

      This is not a tourist problem, never has been.

      Tourists are one source of the demand that drives up the rents. So yeah, they’re part of the problem.

  • eezeebee@lemmy.ca
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    Makes me wonder if people who would have otherwise travelled to the US but decided not to are upping the numbers elsewhere.

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        Following protests throughout Spain in 2024, tourist arrivals increased 4.1% in the first seven months of 2025, according to its National Statistics Institute.

        And it’s going up still, despite it being an issue before this year. It’s interesting that there’s still an increase despite the pushback.

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        That specific protest was on La Rambla, which has been completely blighted by unconstrained tourism and which has had continuing problems with young male drunk tourists harassing locals, loudly partying all night, preventing the neighbors from sleeping, and generally behaving like arseholes. I go to Barcelona frequently and as long you’re not being a complete skidmark, the vast majority of locals don’t mind. As a matter of principle, I never use AirBnB.

        The bigger source of protests in Barcelona was the phenomenon of scumbag landlords evicting local people and then hiring out the places on AirBnB. That became a big local political issue. Whole neighborhoods were being strip-mined in that way.

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      That’s what’s being reported. Tourisme to USA is down with 8% and everywhere else in the world it’s going up. Europe is breaking records this year.

      Then you have conferences and conventions that moved out of the USA. Lots of anecdotes of an empty Vegas strip, guides in cities cutting back, airports not that busy anymore, etc in part because Americans can afford less, places for greedy/private equity and foreigners staying away more.

      And next year might be worse.

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      1 year ago

      That’s a hilarious question to ponder

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    “Poor people tricked into being racist instead of demanding housing as a human right.”