Have they ever heard of books? Whole volume with up to several thousand pages written by people.
Tbf, I’m old enough to have known the world before the world wide web, let alone ChatGPT, and I really don’t understand how the hell anyone could write an internally consistent 1000+ page book/series.
Writers are witches.
Back before the internet became so addictive, I could write and write and write for long periods. Nowadays I have a really short attention span.
I do try to write hand-written letters every year, but work and chores and everything keeps getting in the way.
I’m not gonna feel any kind of sorry for an idiot that cannot imagine not needing a machine to do all of their thinking for them.
That’s a literal real world NPC right there.
And shit, that’s an insult to a fair number of NPCs, who have better writing, voice acting, and potentially GOAP driven tactics.
Fuck, sometimes even better facial animations.
Watching so many functioning adults and people alike just lobotomize themselves immediately when AI became a thing is just so fucking tragic
The CEO of one of my companies clients literally said they couldn’t do their job without Claude when we told him his PC was slowing down to the point of being unusable due to the desktop app and suggested he not use it
They’re probably voting though…
Really? This shit made front page twice?
You people do realize this is likely made-up ragebait, right? You really got energy for this?
You people do realize this is likely made-up ragebait, right?
As someone currently in college (soon not to be as I am dumb), I believe it. This indeed is how many do assignments, and also study, thus fully trusting the correctness of the information.
But it’s coming from both sides.
Lecturer on programming class told us we can ask questions if we have some. Cool, I did.
So I asked, got “That’s a good question, let’s find out.”, he typed out my question to Gemini, and read back the answer.
This was an introductory class to C, and my question was if you can find how much memory was allocated with malloc. His answer was Gemini’s answer which was a concrete no.
Stackoverflow however provided me with better information on the matter: https://stackoverflow.com/a/1281720 (possibly yes)Also, I’ve seen him ask and copy paste a number from Gemini. I think it was what a max value is for
uint32_t.
Putting 232-1 into a calculator? Nah, let’s use an inefficient non-deterministic calculator instead.
Lastly, he added “AI is your most patient teacher”.He did the speaking part of lectures above average, but holy information sources…
I watched a TA (teaching assistant) pull up their chatbot history when I challenged my DSA exam grades. I got about 17 points back. My grade went from high 60s to middle 80s.
Also anectode: I personally know of 2 people that sit in the back during 60+ people exams and simply use their phones.
What they mean is “I couldn’t write a 10-page paper without ChatGPT.” And because they have very limited imaginations, they can’t imagine other people being able to do something they can’t.
Unironically, this. 👆
Too many people can’t see beyond their own little bubble, and have a difficult time if someone challenges their myopic world view. e.g. I see this all too often in software development where developers will make their software “opinionated” (read: it does what they want it to do, and not what’s necessarily good for their users).
I digress. 😅
I agree on software to a point. You need some opinions. “everyone will use a mouse and keyboard, fuck controller users” is bad. But you need some direction to get things done “what system will this run on? Everything! So I’m expected to make a rts game similar to statcraft 2 able to be played on the switch? Yes! And controllable with dpad, joystick, mouse, keyboard, touchpad and a paraplegic wheelchair? Yes! Ok, I’ll need 20 years to write this, and I’ll quit in 4”
Im exaggerating but there does need to limits. “this will be playable on Playstation 5” or “this will require a 2080 or better, we are not supporting a voodoo2 vfx card…”
I like opinionated software with very few exceptions like Apple killing save as
In other words: you like opinionated software so long as they share your opinion. That’s an important distinction.
I mean, ruff is an opnionated code formatter. I don’t always agree with it but I’m very happy I can shut down other people whining with “that’s just how ruff does it”.
Same with black
Correct and in open source there is a lot of choices that do the same thing so I have a plethora of options.
If more software would focus on it’s corr function rather than trying to fit every relevant or irrelevant use case, we’d have a lot less problems with very large rats nests filled with problems
That’s actually an option you can revert.
How?
I combine two tricks:
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Go to System Preferences > General and enable Ask to keep changes when closing documents
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Option + Shift + Command + S or hold Option in the File menu and Duplicate will switch to Save As
Thank you, I’ll give it a try when I get home.
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What they mean is “I couldn’t write a 10-page paper without ChatGPT.”
We used to have a tradition in this country. A tradition of looking up some other shit people wrote and dumping it into our own lazy, English 101 term papers with the hopes that the graders wouldn’t notice.
Are we really so fucking lazy, as a society, that we can’t even do plagarism properly anymore?
Unironically, if you aren’t capable of restructuring and consolidating other people’s ideas into your own format, how many modern office jobs are you even qualified for?
That’s okay. Chatgpt is taking those jobs too.
I suggest we all get into plumbing. The potential for water damage makes robots less appealing there for the near future.
For the most part the way the average user is… well using chatbots and shit is basically just automated plagiarism on one level or another
I’m about halfway through my degree and haven’t used AI for any of it 🤷♂️ Including at least two 10 page papers and I don’t even know how many 3-5 page ones, lol. I have no intention of changing that either, why would I want to dilute my writing voice or my line of reasoning throughout the paper? Writing is thinking, there are so many things you think you understand well until you sit down and try to explain it. That’s the point, that’s the process of learning.
If it was up to me I would accept a student doing a presentation instead of a final paper if they really struggled with writing, because I’ve seen professors do that and I think it teaches just as much (also it’s fun to watch people give presentations they’re enthusiastic about). But it has to be equivalent to the amount of writing you’d be doing, like 20 minutes to present 3-4 pages. But either way, AI isn’t going to teach you anything for either of those compared to doing the work yourself.
Oh man, I asked Claude to summarize my commits and changes today, using the voice and structure of my usual daily updates.
It was fucking awful.
Claude spent 5 minutes on this then I had to review and edit anyway. I ended up spending 10 minutes writing down the what+why in a bullet list from scratch and it’s 100x clearer and better.
The AI neither did a better job nor saved me time.
I think you’re doing the right thing.
I love this take. One suggestion I would make is also rake your knowledge and try to help someone earlier in their journey. Writing is great but you get no feedback immediately(you may get some later).
When you explain something which you only have a surface knowledge of and the other person asks why… That’s teaches both of you alot.
I suspect in five years or so final exams will be a 1 on 1, face to face meeting with the teacher where they ask you some softball questions you should be able to answer easily if you did even some of the homework.
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not that it can’t be done,just you specifically couldn’t do it 😂 (j/k)
Replace this with “without the Internet“, and I remember having this exact same conversation 25 years ago.
The internet is completely different, it’s not an LLM.
I didn’t say that the internet and LLMs were the same, but that the above conversation and ones I’d had about the internet were.
I think you misunderstood the context; this was about writing papers unassisted by technology, not about the specific technology involved.
No, I understand it’s not about the specific technology, but I thought you were trying to imply that they were similar and that they produce the same results in reference to writing papers. My apologies if that was incorrect.
what I meant is that new technologies tend to make people forget how things were done before they existed.
in the older example, my reply would be a sarcastic, “try a library!” Because that’s how we did research before we could just look anything up on the internet.
hell, there was a time when I wasn’t allowed to hand in my homework typed, as my teachers didn’t believe that I had completed the work myself unless they saw it in my own handwriting-- even though they were fully aware that was taking typing/computer classes. (elementary school in the 80s was… very different).
Yeah, makes sense from that angle. Thanks.
Having to write a book report in fifth grade on an author of a book and a book itself with only a school library or a local library available to you was an entire journey, not an afternoon. It took, like, a week, and you had to learn how to write footnotes and end notes with complete references and formatting and everything.
End during that journey, you had to learn a lot about how to do all of those things before you could even get at the information you wanted or needed.
When people say “things were better then, a lot of times that may be what they were referring to, because if I wanted to write a book report about, “to kill a Mockingbird“, I had to learn a lot just to get to that information. And that was the point of it. The exercise itself taught us in ported skills we would need for similar tasks in the future.
Now, with AI, I’ve put more effort into this comment then some kid does to produce a 10 page essay about that book and the author without even having to read the book.
How far we have backslid
Nah your lying. People back than had AI programmed directly inside there head. Nowadays kids have to use external AI models.
AI in this case meant “Actual Intelligence.”
This kid’s going to lose their mind when they find out about books.
Have these shitgurgling fuckwits ever heard of a goddamn book?
Those big stacks of flat wood from the before fore?
Heat many boilers to keep turbines spinning with those. The machine gods demand it
Remember ripping off a ten pager in college the night before because you worked all week and procrastinated? I do
I author those kinds of papers routinely for work unfortunately. Usually closer to 30-40 pages but there are graphs so I guess that takes a few pages off. But….yeah…
