To that, Rogan responded, “Oh, so [Trump] fucked up.” Nickal commented, “That’s the thing about media these days. You gotta look into it.”
Hey fucko, you’re a part of the media
The ol’ Fox news switcheroo.
They brag about being the most watched news on television and also tell their viewers to not trust mainstream media.
“most watched news”
“don’t trust media”
“we are for entertainment only not news and no reasonable person would think so”
Until they are in a courtroom then they’re entertainment
Yeah, and it works wonderfully. Why wouldn’t they roll with it?
We libs think we score some kinda “gotcha!” by pointing to the hypocrisy. It’s not working for us.
They got a formula that works. We do not. Isn’t it about time to abandon the high road and engage in lying, cheating and stealing? Hell, they already think we’re doing it.
Not only that, with being one of the most popular podcasts ever you could even call it mainstream.
Yeah. His show is the most advertised podcast of all time. You’re not getting 200 million for an indie show
Apparently, the misleading part of the media they are complaining about.
Bo Nickal (the person who said that) is an MMA fighter.
Exactly the person you’d want on your show for nuanced political discussion. Thank you once again, Joe Rogan.
The show isn’t for nuanced political discussion lol
Then maybe they shouldn’t keep trying to have them.
True. A few years ago I started watching old JRE videos and enjoyed them, but when I started watching the videos as they came out, I found the show sucked because Rogan wasn’t just platforming people anymore, he was actively pushing his own beliefs because he’d become convinced he was an expert on everything.
Hey fucko, you’re part of the media
Bo Nickal said the second quote referring to the media. Not Rogan.
What’s fun is the moment he realized it was Trump. He went from Biden should be removed because mentally unfit, to well Trump just misspoke
I’m going to just trust you that he said it because I can’t listen to that dumb fuck ramble all day.
To that, Rogan responded, “Oh, so [Trump] fucked up.” Nickal commented, “That’s the thing about media these days. You gotta look into it.”
Ah, a perfect example of people not checking their sources themselves /s
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Is he still claiming to be left-wing?
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Joe Rogan calling people out over mental fitness is a prime example of a pot calling a kettle black.
A kettlebell black. (I kid, I kid.)
Prime example of a pot… cough cough cough hack hack cough haaaack cough cough cough… pot calling… haack haaack… black. Huuaaah. It’s just allergies.
Not directly related beyond steaming and podcasting apparently rotting people’s brains, but I just watched a stream where a guy tried to cough up a lung and then said “it’s not allergies, chat, it’s just hay fever”
Like, damn bro. You’re about to get clowned on by thirteen year olds with more medical knowledge than you.
In case I’m not the only one who didn’t know what hay fever is:
Hay fever is the common name for allergic rhinitis.
Hay fever is caused by the nose and/or eyes coming into contact with environmental allergens, such as pollens (grasses, weeds or trees), dust mite, moulds and animal dander.
Fuckin lmao
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There’s no mistake. It’s his intent to blast Biden, not to speak the truth. He 100% achieved his goal.
If you read the article, it says he was corrected and acknowledged the mistake.
He did not acknowledge the logical conclusion that everything he said about Biden being unfit should then in theory be applied to Trump. No, Trump just “fucked up”.
If read the article critically, you would not accept such a lazy correction.
I actually watched the podcast for the context of this article. You’re right, he doesn’t apply the same scrutiny towards Trump. Yet, he does acknowledge it and they showed the clip of Trump’s idiotic speech. They also laugh at him, but then move on. Anyone that actually watches the podcast, the ones you’re afraid will be manipulated into fascism or whatever, would have seen that recanted. The only side that has a real opinion swaying agenda is the media side. A lot of people just read headlines and move on. Those people would never even be aware of the correction.
Also, I don’t care. I know Joe Rogan has different political views than I do and that doesn’t stop me from seeing him as a person that is entitled to his own views. I can still respect him for his work in comedy, mma and for his podcast. I haven’t watched a full one in a while, but he has some good ones with interesting people. He also has a way of interviewing people that seems mich more real than most other formats. He just shoots the shit with people and it doesn’t feel like some scripted intentional message they’re trying to put out.
the ones you’re afraid will be manipulated into fascism or whatever, would have seen that recanted.
They would have seen a recantion, yes, but nothing about either saying why he just ranted about Biden’s mental fitness with appropriate evidence OR spend some significant time retracting each adjective that he applied to Biden on false information.
He is fucking broadcasting. Stop treating him like a buddy sitting on your couch. He either knows what he is doing, or he has no respect for the power of having a large audience that can internalize messages on his word.
I believe your comment shows a lack of awareness of how people get piped to fascist viewpoints. To be clear, I do not think Rogen is intentionally leading people there, but being an idiot is not a great shield.
How could he not acknowledge it? They played the clip… He was proven incorrect on the air. The issue is that he was using the statement as a reason Biden should be removed, but for Trump it was just a mistake.
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Because a lot of people are dumb and easily manipulated.
That’s also why Joe Rogans stupid conspiracy theories and political bias can be dangerous, sometimes. Stupid people will believe every word like he knows what he’s talking about.
I don’t hate him or think he’s evil, either, fwiw. He’s just a dumb out of touch rich guy with too many gullible fans.
I don’t know about evil, but he has a platform with a huge amount of influence which he uses to push a conservative viewpoint. That, at the very least, makes him immoral.
I don’t understand why people act like he’s the fucking devil. Like, you can think he’s a dumbass, but some people seem to want to act like he’s legitimately evil.
Here, don’t run and hide from your ignorance, let it shine.
How is that ignorance? The fuck is wrong with you?
“Let me make a statement, be fucking drowned in counter evidence and just delete my comment and fuck off.”
-you
Stay mad.
You are mistaken in thinking that changes anything.
Fascists only need to blast their message. Any incorrectness or recanting is 100% irrelevant and inconsequential.
When the nazis roll over the government and burn it all down, I swear, there’ll be this 10% subset of people befuddled that this could be happening after all of the recanting. It doesn’t matter. Don’t let them convince you it matters.
Like blasting headlines about how shitty Joe Rogan is? I’ve seen a ton of them and pretty much all of them are overblown, taken out of context or misleading. Media knows you guys love to hate him, that’s why they put out these pieces in the first place.
Also, I fail to see how someone wanting to put down Biden is bad. People are entitled to their opinions and views, even if they aren’t what you agree with. I seriously doubt Joe Rogan is plotting to make America fascist. Biden is not without his faults as well. His main selling point is that he isn’t Trump.
People are surely entitled to their own opinions. I read yours. I’ve concluded that you’re a moron.
If you don’t see the hypocrisy in your own words, then your conclusion doesn’t mean much to me.
They are inherently different
Yeah totally, one supports your opinion and the other does not.
Just curious, but why do you think they are different? It’s real easy to just say “no you’re wrong”.
You’re such a tool and you don’t even know it.
Read the article, it says it right there? Am I tool because I’m just pointing out something that’s in the article? Thanks for your amazing contribution to this discussion.
A tool and too dumb to see it. Great combo. /s
Rather be a dumb tool than a toxic garbage person.
At least we agree you’re a tool.
Congrats, you’ve done both here.
Maybe Rogan needs a new, younger, fresher host on that show.
Rogan should step down as we see his mental facilities are in decline.
It’s depressing to watch a thumb get old.
Maybe a rival podcast should call for rallies, then storm the JRE studios and overthrow him. I be the Behind the Bastards gang could sort this out.
oh, cruel ironic fate - they’re called faculties!
;)
It’s not just his faculties, but the entire facilities that keep him running!
I seen a bit of this interview yesterday. The article doesn’t cover it all. As soon as these 2 knuckleheads started spewing airports and it was Biden that said this I was confused as this was something Trump said a few years back. Didn’t they know? They ride the media for skewing things and they weren’t even aware of how Trump was called out in the same media for this some time back.
Below this fellow breaks down the double standard in more detail than the article does. It covers how Rogan and his Guest said no one should listen to Biden and how he is unfit for office due to this airport thing. Then when the producer points out to Rogan that Biden is referring to what Trump previously said, it wasn’t a big deal all of a sudden to Rogan and the guest.
Trump gets a “whoopsie doodle” pass and Trump is still the better choice in his mind I’m sure. Not saying Biden is a gem of a rose but with how hard the right are trying to pin anything on Biden and failing, Trump is still a rotten to the core choice for endless reasons.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1LANk2O4oh/?igsh=MWYwMDF5YXk0ZjJnNw==
In short: Joe Rogan is a crypto-fascist.
The crypto is debatable at this point
At least a few months back Alex Jones was bragging about finally converting Rogan to his side. He’d been telling his audience for years he’s been working on getting Rogan to take his stance.
The fact that anyone gives Rogan the time of day even though he not only platforms Alex Jones, but considers him a friend, is just disgusting.
Dipshits of a feather I guess. Except Rohan I’d been a sucking on the right wing money teat for almost a decade. The yoga anti mask pro gun movement has been a big part of that since covid in late 2020.
Its always unfalsifiable. They’re right no matter their position, $100 million > objective reality any day /s
Thats why estoppel in the legal system and the legal system in general are Trump’s kryptonite, even if it looks like hes constantly usurping it. Make him pin down himself and he just can’t do it so he loses cuz he can’t stop himself from hedging or being sure what he says is going to be universally adored by those he “represents”
Also, like those Targets that let you steal until its a felony and both of you hit the big time 🎬
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Rogan is a truly horrible human being. I absolutely cannot stand that asshole. He is the walking and talking Dunning-Krueger Effect. He is a washed up comedian who moved on to making people eat disgusting stuff on a shitty reality show to thinking he is some sort of brilliant host.
He’s like the unfortunate result of Jerry Springer, Rush Limbaugh and Morton Downey Jr spreading idiocy and bullshit everywhere, setting the stage
Even before that, Rogan’s show is modeled off Coast to Coast AM, a show well known for pseudoscience and conspiracy theories.
Coast to Coast at least made it fun.
Yeah, Art Bell was a kook, but he was also a legitimately nice guy. Rogan is an arrogant prick.
legitimately nice guy
If only we could ask his ex wives.
Marriages can not work out even if you’re a nice person.
Just look into the circumstances
I loved C2C, mostly in reruns sadly.
And Art was awesome as a host and did a ton of good stuff in his life.
But damn if how the wives died is not suspicious as fuck.
Morton Downey Jr
I completely forgot about him.
Let’s all forget him again, he doesn’t deserve remembrance
I will give him credit for one thing- when he got lung cancer, he went on a huge apology tour for his promoting smoking, which is more than pretty much any conservative would do today.
I thought about that then I got mad all over again because of the “Now that it affects me, it’s important!” angle. But yeah, at least he was apologetic about that one thing and it would def be unthinkable any regressive would apologise about anything today.
Rush Limbaugh (who coincidentally replaced Downey when Downey got fired from his job) took the “smoking is a-ok!” to his lung-cancerous grave
Oh yeah, it’s a very small amount of credit, but I will give it where it’s due. He was otherwise a colossal piece of shit.
What did Jerry do? I’m out of the loop
Be a comedian.
I feel like somone correct me if I’m wrong, that early on he was decent. He listened and had good long interviews.
But, somewhere along the way he started to like the smell of his own farts and things when down the crazy hole.
I share that opinion. The shat began a bit before the spotify deal, but after it was downhill via log ride off shit mountain.
You probably grew out of it and realized he was shit all along.
I listened to him for a while, then found him complaining more and more about the left. That was mostly fine since he complained about conservatives as well and he supported Bernie Sanders, but I got fed up with him because he wouldn’t have liberals on the show to discuss the topics he clearly knew nothing about yet loved to bring up constantly.
He’s a guy who touts himself on being open, curious, and willing to learn, but what I found was the exact opposite. Any time there was a guest on his show who disagreed with something and the conversation turned into more of a debate, he’d say that having that person on was a mistake. Ultimately I stopped listening when he proved himself to be a blowhard hypocrite.
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I miss the days when he was doing stand up and straight up telling people “I’m an idiot. Please don’t take me seriously.” It definitely is better than now, where he is still an idiot but people do take him seriously.
I miss when he was doing standup, too, because he sucked at it so nobody was posting his clips
He should’ve just stuck to fear factor and UFC
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He had the dumbest takes back then. He was a less interesting, dumber Howard Stern.
He still has the dumbest takes. Nothing has changed except his audience has grown.
I liked him in News Radio, but I would also have said the same about Andy Dick. Come to think of it, both of them played idiot savant characters so maybe it was just the genius casting in that show.
He was also perfectly cast in Fear Factor. It was like something he was born to do.
Nah fuck that. That was always his trick, he doesn’t actually think he’s an idiot, it’s just his get out of jail card.
Even worse, nowadays he thinks he’s a genius because he’s super rich.
His stand up was atrocious, I hate even listen to him talk about comedy and comedians because it’d be like me talking about nuclear physics and how our brains work.
You don’t like his stand-up? You don’t like to hear about almond nipples and Kim Kardashian while he’s hunched over a stool?
In all seriousness, I was so disappointed in his stand up when I was a fan. For a guy that talks to so many people about so many different topics, his stand up was so boring.
The years of ped abuse and blows to the head from sparring at work. Never was a smart guy, but that sure didn’t help.
Ped?
Preforms enhancing drugs.
*Pez
Pez abuse usually only results in diabetes.
This whole conversation seems awfully Pez-imistic.
That idiot is the reason I dropped Spotify. I don’t want my money funding such a dipshit.
I also hate how he’s appropriated the acronym “JRE” from programming to a right wing conspiracy show. Say what you want about Java but it doesn’t deserve this.
The Java Runtime Experience podcast
Huh, ‘JRE’ is a reaction YouTuber to me.
I can’t believe I used to listen to him lol he got me with the scientist interviews… Like not the Egyptian aliens types, but people like Neil Degrass Tyson.
Then I listened enough to realize he’s a jackass right winger pretending that liking weed puts him on the left somehow, kinda like Bill Maher. Yeah yeah Bill you’re tolerant of “the gays” and you like weed, but he’s center right if anything, again pretending he’s on the left for his ratings.
I think if you’re a right winger who smokes weed, that makes you a libertarian, not a liberal.
If you think Libertarians and Republicans aren’t the same thing, you’re smoking too much weed.
he’s a jackass right winger pretending that liking weed puts him on the left somehow
I think you miss interpreted this line.
You know there’s a big difference between a liberal and libertarian, right?
Libertarian - an advocate or supporter of a political philosophy that advocates only minimal state intervention in the free market and the private lives of citizens.
Liberal - a supporter of policies that are socially progressive and promote social welfare.
Ok, I’ll spell it out for you. Joe Rogan is the one claiming to be a liberal or at the very least, a centrist. Not me and not the person you were originally replying to. Everyone here knows Joe Rogan is a libertarian.
Oh, thank you so much. I don’t follow the whole Joe Rogan thing so I wasn’t familiar with him claiming to be a liberal. I thought he stuck to the conservative/libertarian thing and wasn’t trying to convince people he was something else. Thanks! TIL
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hmm its almost like joe rogan is an aboslute idiot and the real life embodiment of a thumb-thumb from spykids
I keep getting videos of Rogan pushed on YouTube, while I constantly mark them as “not interested” of report them as “fake news”. He’s like a horrible decease you never can get rid of.
YouTube needs content filters
Disease?
Wishful thinking
I made a typo because I’m dyslectic and I got corrected. The sentence was “he is like a disease-” and your response is “wishful thinking”? So, you wish he was like a disease? I kinda feel like he already is, so your wish came through. But to what you meant, it’s really horrible to have a disease, wishing that onto the people you oppose makes you as bad as they are. I just wish he would see the harm he does, he would see the world as it really is instead of his vision which is through very polarized glasses, and I wish he would stop spreading his BS.
I think they meant that your typo: “decease” is the wishful thinking. As in they wish he was deceased.
You wish he would die?
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Is that so far-fetched?
Your mistake is interacting with them at all.
The algorithms know that people who dislike something enough to click a button will be primed to potentially do something like hate-watch or open the video to leave a comment, etc so by interacting you are telling it you were emotionally affected.
The best way to avoid getting suggested videos like this is to completely ignore them. Do not open it, do not click any buttons on it or hover over it long enough for the preview to start.
Eventually you’ll only see suggestions like that if you are a regular watcher of videos on the opposite end of the spectrum.
I’ve been telling YouTube not to recommend these types of videos and it seems to work well with minimal effort on my part. When I look at the homepage, it’s all cooking and math videos, and it’s been that way for years now.
Alternatively, I tell YouTube to not recommend a channel and it… doesn’t recommend that channel.
Doesn’t work with shorts, then you just get pushed junk
Ironically, you marking them as not interested and reporting them probably counts as engagement to show those videos more often.
No, YouTube just has an (among other examples) “young white western male” problem.
The algorithm works hard to jam you into a pigeon hole no matter how abhorrent you find the pigeon shit contained therein.
It’s an AI problem. Because the algorithm only looks at things you have done, which after some time include you looking at its recommendations, it cannot see past the bucket it has you in.
It’s more about your demographic. Doesn’t matter if you’ve never watched anything even remotely related to JRE, if it’s popular around your local area it’ll be recommended to you.
It shouldn’t, I don’t see them anymore by choosing the don’t recommend this channel to me anymore. And I do bij so watch a ton of bjj videos, so anytime some channel pops up that uses his clips it’s recommended to me. Still his own channel and that main clipping channel are things I haven’t seen in a long time.
Here’s a direct excerpt from the article OP linked:
Shortly after the exchange during the show, “The Joe Rogan Experience” producer Jamie Vernon cut in to correct Rogan. Vernon played a clip that Rogan had cited, which was in fact a video of Biden mocking “stable genius” Trump for the comments about airports in the Revolutionary War. Then Vernon ran a video clip of Trump’s “Salute to America” remarks from July 4, 2019, in which the former president praised Americans’ military efforts in the war against Great Britain.
In the speech, Trump said in part, “Our army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do, and at Fort McHenry, under the rockets’ red glare, it had nothing but victory.” (Meanwhile, Fort McHenry was the site of a key American victory over the British navy in the War of 1812, not the Revolutionary War.)
To that, Rogan responded, “Oh, so [Trump] fucked up.” Nickal commented, “That’s the thing about media these days. You gotta look into it.”
I dont watch the podcast, but please: let’s exhibit some media literacy while we criticize others for their supposed lack of media literacy.
Yeah it’s the “media”. You have the #1 podcast in the world spreading misinformation. Unfunny fuck nugget prick Rogan.
It’s only misinformation if it’s consumed as a soundbite devoid of context. And since you’re commenting on my comment highlighting the context, I am legitimately confused as to your issue. If near real-time fact-checking on the very same podcast episode isn’t enough for you: then you may just have an issue with conversational podcasts in general. Stick to printed news.
Not happening here, once people get a hate boner for someone or something… they’re full on blind to the nuance.
God I hate Joe Rogan’s show so much. He doesn’t fact check anything. Just one easily influenced airhead with a megaphone and a huge audience.
I don’t like him either but it was fact-checked on the show in this case
Did he apologize, and use it as a learning experience to not just blindly believe bullshit and be extra vigilant when you are spreading such bullshit to millions?
Nope. Instead, he acted like it wasn’t a big deal that Trump said it even though it apparently was a big deal when Biden said it.
Big ups to Jamie and his google wizardry
Fact checking ideally happens before you start attributing quotes to people, forming an opinion about it, and making calls to take action.
Fact checking after the falsehood has already been stated is no longer fact checking, it’s simply correcting the record.
There’s the famous quote: “A lie can travel halfway across the globe before the truth can even get it’s pants on.”. Very relevant here. He made a big deal about Biden being unfit for office, but when the record was corrected there was no mention of Trump’s fitness (not to mention it being old news in the first place). The damage was done already.
He doesn’t fact check himself but his crew fact checks him almost immediately.
And he still doesn’t learn and still make mistakes and should not have a platform.
MTG, Matt Gaetz, Lauren Boebert and other right wingers really don’t care about being fact checked. Once their initial talking points have been spewed they move on to the other talking points because their base doesn’t care about or know that the facts have been checked.
Like the clip they played of Biden, Joe and the guest believed it instantly. So I guess Joe is one of their base.
This perfectly showcases the multi tier belief system from Joe and his goons…
- If Biden says it, he is mentally done
- If the orange turd says it, the bro slipped
“Muh team no matter wut. 'Murica.”
Always has been
This guy right here is the reason some 1,500 jobs were lost from Spotify.
Talk about overpaid piece of shit.
Wonder if the guy who greenlit this shit idea also saw the axe
I hope that guy received the none metaphorical kind
I don’t see reports on a direct connection - remember where you heard that?
Not the original commenter here but this one doesn’t make a direct connection, but certainly says Spotify blew money poorly that they are trying to make up for, although it mainly mentions cuts in podcasts. This one make s bit more of a correlation saying "The cancellations coincide with jobs cuts at Spotify Monday that eliminated 17% of the streaming company’s staff, or around 1,500 people. Spotify has undertaken several rounds of job cuts since October 2022. " https://fortune.com/2023/12/04/spotify-podcasts-cancelled-heavyweight-stolen/ However you’re not going to find much more than that because it would require a degree of openness and honest that a shitty company isn’t going to give. So it’s hard to say a direct connection doesn’t exist when all the data on that is kept secret by the people who profit from it.
