Is this bait or are you actually 14? There are a group of people engaged in genocide and performing a fascist coup, this guy ran on a “stop the genocide and fascist coup” platform. Barring the existence of a legitimate alternative (and let’s be honest, there wasn’t) please, for the love of god, explain to me why I should care about literally anything but the fact that he wants to stop the genocide and the fascists?

When the gestapo come to your door and you need to defend yourself are you going to not reach for a gun because that would imply tacit approval for the gun lobby?

They’re a fed. Or a useful idiot. We lost this week. With the margin being what is is we may have lost overall.

As entertaining as that would be, no.

BUT, I do think he would be willing to violate the constitution in order to attack political enemies.

Listen I know the talking points whatever GS-13 you work for gave to you imply people don’t have an appetite for this but take a look at the recent polling.

Most of Platner’s voters supported him staying in.

I don’t think he cares about non-whites like you may. I think he hates capitalists, or billionaires, or whatever homunculus he’s created in his mind that embodies the ruling class. That’s useful; a bitter, violent man with a grudge. That’s good, that’s very good. The US war machine is built off the backs of people like him for a reason.

I think given the opportunity he would be an asset in harming US imperial interests. He’s an angry killer and we gave him something to go after. I’m starting to notice a lot of “leftists” don’t have the stomach for the kinds of things were going to have to do to bring every single fascist in this country to heel.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, don’t you have like an hourly report to be sending to your supervisor fed boy?

His opponent is complicit in genocide and the fascist takeover of the united States.

Precisely how many white women need to be raped to be equivalent to that? It sounds like one. This is simple utilitarian calculus. He represented more net good than his opponent. We have all collectively agreed, based on this race, that genocide and fascism are fine as long as no white women are hurt.

All that is true.

And with any luck he may have been willing to show the same behavior to the enemy. The left could have had their very own psychopathic killer who likely would have been very amenable to brutally crushing republican opposition In a bloody pogrom.

Alas, we’ll just lose sanctimoniously.

I appreciate your sense of hope and optimism though I agree that we will certainly not see eye to eye here.

From my position I view the United States as the most direct and immediate threat to long term growth for the human race. I’m an engineer first and everything else second so for me it’s a question of optimization. The US is holding back more efficient systems of resource allocation which is sub-optimal and that is fundamentally unacceptable.

I’ve appreciated the back and forth :)

Open source the program?

What do you mean we’re not at the point of gestapo pulling people from their beds? What the hell is ICE doing?

You act as though this is still a legitimate government with legitimate laws. It is not. The US government is no longer legitimate; we are in a high functioning failed state. The legality of the rioters is irrelevant, they are a part of our tribe and our tribe is targeted by a rival tribe. We cannot act like there is such a thing as the rule of law, we will bury ourselves in our sanctimoniousness.

The goal at this point is embrace, extend, extinguish.

EDIT: Also, to be clear, when you say things were going back to normal you’re referring to the US just being a regular imperialist hell hole? “Holding steady” in that context is equally unacceptable.

Two of them were not even present at the time of the shooting. This regime used NSPM-7 and the PA to get leftists on terrorism charges. They will do this again, it will be worse next time.

We are very close to masked men knocking down our doors and dragging us out in the middle of the night.

Do you think this is just going to go away? That everything is just going to work out? The tyrants will stop at precisely this amount of abuse of power and no further? Not once in history has a slide into authoritarianism just “worked out”.

If by “purity test” you mean “would be willing to vote on incarcerating every sitting republican and establishment democrat in the country” then yes.

Our opponents just sentenced a dozen people to life in prison for printing magazines. Do you not think the stakes are high? We have, officially, reached kill or be killed.

We are running out of opportunities to vote our way out of this. If this country even makes it to the midterms we’re going to have one shot to pack the senate with enough radicals that we can end this once and for all and even that’s a long shot. My support for Platner comes down to one question.

“Do I believe he would be willing to vote in favor of jailing or executing every single sitting republican official in the country, as well as complicit sitting democrats?”

Between him, Collins, and whatever AIPAC stooge the DNC pushes to replace him with my moneys on Platner.

Brother.

He got out and then joined blackwater. My entire argument here is that even granting the sexual assault it’s (unfortunately) almost certainly one of the least violent and savage things he’s done in his life. If we were willing to give a pass on that but suddenly allegations of sexual assault appear and we drop him than we are falling for the fascists plot. The republicans know full well that we’ve been conditioned to treat sexual assault as a capitol sin and they know that our candidates have to be more catholic than the Pope while they can source the most vile humans on earth to serve their interests.

We’re fighting with a hand tied behind our back and apologizing if the other hand might inconvenience the enemy.

Every single Republican and moderate Democrat, regardless of voting record, is a fascist sympathizer.

“If this is the best candidate we can put forward, we deserve to lose”

OK so you are absolutely saying you would rather die than dirty your hands?

Go through my history. 9 years in the navy. I know how it works. He chose multiple tours and then PMC work after that. And you know what? I bet he was real good at killing.

Your making the claim that choosing to re-enlist for another tour, getting out, not using the GI bill, and instead joining the most infamously violent PMC in the country was forgivable indoctrination, but we have allegations of sexual assault and that’s the straw that broke the camels back?

Fed

Than we lose. Our opponent does not have these kinds of misgivings and has the ability to leverage more moves than we do in this game because of it.

If you supported him up to this point you’re literally saying “yeah, the brutal pogrom of violence against untold civilians which almost certainly included assault on women and children was one thing, but did you know he may have sexually assaulted a white woman?”

Explain to me how you were cool with being a blackwater merc but not this?

You’re up against fascists. Your comment translates to

“I’d rather die than fail this purity test”

Let’s say we grant you that he raped her.

This man was a blackwater merc and this is the line we draw? Nah fuck that, we were willing to swallow him being a bloodthirsty maniac but now that the victim is white it’s a problem?

With any luck this guy will bring the sheer, unhinged, ultra violence that seems to follow him directly into the capitol and honestly we can’t afford to purity test our way out of victory.

Go back to your office fed boy.

Violent revolution with the express intent of ending the lives of political enemies. Thought that was pretty clear?