We’re closing this thread. Everything that could be said has been said. Thank you
Original Post:
Today, we want to inform everyone that we have decided to defederate from https://exploding-heads.com/. We understand that defederating should always be a last resort, and individuals can certainly block communities. However, blocking alone does not prevent potential harm to vulnerable communities.
After carefully reviewing the instance, reported posts, and multiple comments from the community, we have concluded that exploding-heads is not adhering to the Lemmy or Citizen Code of Conduct. Therefore, we cannot, in good faith, continue to federate with an instance that consistently promotes hate, racism, and bullying.
Examples:
https://lemmy.world/post/577526 - Community Moderator Harassment
https://exploding-heads.com/post/92194 - Systemadmin Post
https://exploding-heads.com/post/90780 - Systemadmin Post
https://exploding-heads.com/post/91488 - Systemadmin Post
https://exploding-heads.com/post/93725 - Community Moderator Post
Again, deciding to defederate from an instance is not taken lightly. In the future, we will continue to review instances on a case-by-case bases.
As for our community, please refrain from posting or commenting with hateful words as well. Arguing back and calling people names is not the solution. The best course of action is to report the posts or comments violating our server rules.
Lemmy Code of Conduct
https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html
Citizen Code of Conduct https://github.com/stumpsyn/policies/blob/master/citizen_code_of_conduct.md
“We are committed to providing a friendly, safe, and welcoming environment for all, regardless of level of experience, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, personal appearance, body size, race, ethnicity, age, religion, nationality, or other similar characteristic.”
Or you can build a better argument and debate the idea. If its not a call to violence, its just words and ideas battling it out.
I believe COVID showed very well that this isn’t the case. Not to mention, when you’re debating something like an astrophysics concept, it makes no sense to allow a professional basketball coach to weigh in.
Sometimes you can have two people from the same fields with different point of views. Even if they’re not, there still may by new perspectives and ideas that may lead to something better, whatever it is.
Of course, but that doesn’t mean I bring a freshman college physics student equal grounding to a seasoned quantum physics expert in a debate about quantum breakthroughs.
Even within the same field, you have to look at the weights. If 1 climate scientist says global warming is bullshit, and 9999 climate scientists say global warming is an obvious and clear phenomenon, I’m going to believe the 9999.
Even if just falls down to being a dumb opinion, I still rather be able to be said.
Debates don’t convince people to change their minds.
I have a tendency to debate people, even when I already know I might as well bash my head into a wall for all the good it’ll do me. But I still do it and here’s why:
You’re not trying to convince the person you’re responding to. Everyone knows that certain people, e.g. anti-vaxxers, will never be convinced, no matter how many sources you cite. You’re not putting in the effort for them; you’re doing it for the people who might be reading, the ones who aren’t lost causes yet, the people who simply aren’t knowledgeable about a subject and could fall victim to such misinformation if it were to go unchallenged.
It’s a public forum, there’s always someone reading.
Edit just to say: I fully embrace this defederation. That instance is a cesspool and no amount of ‘debate’ would ever change that. I don’t want that on my feed and everyone who does is free to join them or make their own instance.
Debates don’t convince close minded people from changing their minds.
This kind of attitude is defeatist - if the person you’re discussing with isn’t willing to budge on an issue then it’s not a real debate. We should all approach discussions knowing that we are all fallible, but can correct our misjudgements.
I mean that’s literally debatable lol.
COVID-19 proves that rational debate doesn’t work. Heck, even the results of recent US and UK elections prove that people are so brainwashed and incapable of rational thought that they’ll support their side like a local football team, no matter how badly their policies screw them over.
Arguing with a right-winger is like playing a game of chess with a rooster. No matter what you say or do, the rooster will knock over the pieces, shit all over the board and strut around triumphantly.
Wait I’m confused because people got banned for speaking about vaccines, and a lot more information is still coming out about them. My point is even if that person is a person with a brain of a cock he should still be able to speak.
I’m not gonna lie that more testing could have been done on the vaccines that came out (AstraZeneca was specifically linked to substantially increased risks of blood clots in young people weeks after the first jabs were administered), but there’s a difference between this and outright anti-vaxx rhetoric.
COVID-19 was also an international health emergency that could have gone so much worse if every country governed their efforts like the ass-clowns who ultimately prolonged the pandemic by dismissing their seriousness and half-assing their efforts (Boris Johnson, Donald Trump and Jair Bolsonaro come to mind.)
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