I was gonna title this “And here I sit so patiently waiting to find out what price you have to pay to get out of going through all these things twice” and then write “Stuck inside of America with the fascism blues again” here, but I’m not sure if that comes off like gloating and that’s honestly the last thing I want to do this morning.

  • @[email protected]
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    102 months ago

    People think that Trump is going to change things, which is very hard to argue against. Yes, it won’t be change for the better, but Harris was offering them 4 more years of the status quo that is currently hurting them.

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      No one can argue Trump didn’t get things done. He got a lot done, especially when you compare that to the perception people have of the Biden administration.

      But I brought this up earlier: Trump may hate his followers, absolutely loathe them, but he still panders to them, even if it’s fake promises. He accomplishes things they want done, and shows he can make progress, something the Democrats botch literally anytime they get any semblance of power. Trump makes his constituents feel heard.

      The Democrats, just, don’t. Everyone on Lemmy I’m sure has seen people offering criticism of Biden/Harris, and the response has been to immediately insult, scold, condescend, and shame the individual for not towing the party line. Your concerns, anxieties, hangups, none of that matters because fascism bad so stfu and vote and also fuck you anyway.

      Trump’s supporters ask him to abolish vaccines, and he seriously considers it.

      Harris’ supporters ask her to not support a genocide in Palestine, and she sends Bill Clinton to lecture them about why Israel has the right to do what they’re doing.

      It’s a two-way street, the politicians just can’t keep demanding our votes and ignoring our issues. And if that’s what they’re going to do, then congratulations, you’ve turned your voting base apathetic, and you deserve to lose to fascism.

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        102 months ago

        I saw someone else on here put it perfectly, Democrats feel entitled to votes. They think that because they are logically the lesser evil, not voting for them is wrong. They don’t even consider that American elections are not about logic, and are nearly entirely about emotions. They don’t feel the need to make their constituents feel heard because they think their constituents are idiots if they don’t vote for them. They don’t even stop to realize that they are still an evil.

        Seeing some of that entitlement in these threads has been, frankly, infuriating. Blue MAGA is the right term, they act identically to Trump supporters. It’s everyone’s fault but Harris’.

        • @BlitzoTheOisSilent
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          I’ve been saying the entitlement thing since the midterms! You’re not entitled to someone’s vote just because the other option is fascism.

          And this entitlement has turned a large part of eligible voters apathetic. What difference does it make if you vote if you’re always just voting for the lesser evil? If you’re never actually represented in the people you’re forced to choose between?

          If you’re going to be fucked either way, what difference does it make if the party in power is fascist or not?

          And yep, plenty of people today telling me I’m the problem, despite the fact I voted for Harris. I just am also not naive enough to think the average American should be impressed by the lackluster campaign she just ran, and the Democrats botched on the whole.

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            I never voted for Trump each time I was able to vote. Not once did it ever cross my mind.

            And somehow we’re the evil people for wanting meaningful promises that improve the lives that fascism tempts. Never once voted for a Trump and since 2020, never voted for a Republican locally, I always skip the blanket primary when I can, since “I can promise you’re not totally crazy” isn’t a thing anymore.

            When I ask “Why are we supporting these bad polices that Bush started?” I’m accused of being a useful idiot. When I ask “Why did we stop COVID protections and doing tests? Isn’t that what Trump wanted?” I’m called a Russian bot. At some point I just learned:

            Oh you don’t care about kids in cages. You don’t care about the 9/11 amount of Americans dying from COVID. You don’t care about police killing innocent people. You don’t want anything good, you pretend to for votes. You got jealous of how devoted and rabid Trump’s fans are, and wanted a piece of that fascist pie.

            I give up. Democrats don’t want answers and polices, they just wanna be “Not the current evil guy.”

        • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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          52 months ago

          It really does feel like that. “Vote for lesser evil” but do nothing to be less evil.

          Blue MAGA was a joke that became reality. There’s several people more angry at “I was entitled to more votes!” than Trump winning the votes and ending everything else.

      • @maniii
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        62 months ago

        I’m not even American and I constantly see Lemmy users dunk on me for saying Biden/Harris are corpo dems who don’t have policies most people wanted. That DNC and democrat politicians will be to blame if Drumpf wins.Not voters. Not independents. The Party and the Party Leaders.