What a breath of fresh air your comment is, thank you. The sheer absolute HATE I’ve been getting in this thread and others is so incredibly toxic and frustrating. I’m literally at the point where I’m like, you know what, you’re right, stay the fuck at home and stay away from my team because I don’t need that vitriol in my life.

I saw a thread recently here or on Reddit maybe hating on presentations and group assignments in school. It wasn’t until I got to management that I realized how incredibly important those skills are.

Personally I’m convinced that it isn’t “people don’t want to work anymore.” More like "people fucking suck at working together, on big projects, remotely, and friggin communicating as a team. So the sucky deadweight employees don’t do squat, and the good ones are frustrated as hell, overburdened with their shithead colleagues work that the rest of us have to do now.

Sorry for the rant but this is fucking my shit up big time, and it’s really hard getting all this pure hatred online by toxic people who refuse to even pick up the damn phone when I call to ask “how did you compute such and such” or whatever.