@JohnDClay@turkishdelight Zenz repurposes the pro-life argument that reduced birth rates are genocide to make it look like Xinjiang getting free healthcare & women who had 3 kids already receiving tubal ligations/ etc. is genocide the same way KKK guys think modernity is white genocide. China literally trained these people to be bilingual realtors and stuff like that, it wasn’t even a mega trade program or something. They got people to white collar shit Xinjiang is rich
@conditional_soup If you’ve heard of the one child policy here’s a fun fact none of you “China watchers” know. Most regions and/or minority groups did not get affected. If you were Han or anything in Tibet, or a minority any placd, you could be fruitful and multiply. Just an example of how China deliberately gives minority groups boosted democratic representation, healthcare access, training, and cultural representation. Which is what responsible nations should do (glaring at indian res)
Huh? Pretty sure Guantanamo Bay is still open to this day. Not on the same scale nowadays, sure; but the CCP never claimed freedom as part of its core values either.
Reading comprehension really is a struggle sometimes. They specifically mentioned scale in their comment. Also, I kinda feel like being open about genocide doesn’t make it better.
They also compared Japanese U.S. internment camps during WWII to the current suppression of Uyghurs in China so maybe take what they say with a grain of salt.
Edit: Looks like I got banned for my original comment, so I’ll answer in an edit:
I think they are comparable in that they are horrible treatment of minorities. I think the concentration camps of Japanese Americans was out of extreme xenophobia. I think the reeducation camps are out desire to stamp out any possibility of independence movements. So not very similar, but both very terrible.
I think they are comparable in that they are horrible treatment of minorities. I think the concentration camps of Japanese Americans was out of extreme xenophobia. I think the reeducation camps are out desire to stamp out any possibility of independence movements. So not very similar, but both very terrible.
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Is there a country in the Middle East that America hasn’t bombed or invaded?
Is there one that is part of the US now?
There are still American soldiers in most of them.
Occupied territories yes.
And there’s a US colony committing a genocide in Palestine right now.
@JohnDClay @turkishdelight Zenz repurposes the pro-life argument that reduced birth rates are genocide to make it look like Xinjiang getting free healthcare & women who had 3 kids already receiving tubal ligations/ etc. is genocide the same way KKK guys think modernity is white genocide. China literally trained these people to be bilingual realtors and stuff like that, it wasn’t even a mega trade program or something. They got people to white collar shit Xinjiang is rich
Were the tubal ligations voluntary?
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@conditional_soup If you’ve heard of the one child policy here’s a fun fact none of you “China watchers” know. Most regions and/or minority groups did not get affected. If you were Han or anything in Tibet, or a minority any placd, you could be fruitful and multiply. Just an example of how China deliberately gives minority groups boosted democratic representation, healthcare access, training, and cultural representation. Which is what responsible nations should do (glaring at indian res)
@conditional_soup *Urumqi god this charlimit is so awful I can do 5000 but 500 is grueling. Sorry for triple tapping ya
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Huh? Pretty sure Guantanamo Bay is still open to this day. Not on the same scale nowadays, sure; but the CCP never claimed freedom as part of its core values either.
Reading comprehension really is a struggle sometimes. They specifically mentioned scale in their comment. Also, I kinda feel like being open about genocide doesn’t make it better.
They also compared Japanese U.S. internment camps during WWII to the current suppression of Uyghurs in China so maybe take what they say with a grain of salt.
You think reeducation camps to kill a culture are different?
You think Japanese camps were to kill a culture?
I think the camps for the Uyghurs are.
Edit: Looks like I got banned for my original comment, so I’ll answer in an edit:
Do you think the current treatment of Uyghurs by China is comparable to treatment of Japanese people in US internment camps during WWII?
I think they are comparable in that they are horrible treatment of minorities. I think the concentration camps of Japanese Americans was out of extreme xenophobia. I think the reeducation camps are out desire to stamp out any possibility of independence movements. So not very similar, but both very terrible.
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