• @[email protected]
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    And yet, Valve is touted as being among the most ethical and moral of gaming companies.

    I think it’s funny that while Stake was getting blasted on Twitch, CS:GO sat quietly in its corner hoping no one would look its way.

    There are people who have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on this shit.

    It’s a problem.

    • @Arbiter
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      Yeah, it’s literally unregulated gambling.

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          I would say yes, they are unregulated gambling. People also spend ludicrous amounts of money on cards. Though I don’t think that should factor into whether or not something is or isn’t unregulated gambling. It’s the chance product, not the money spent on it.

            • @Arbiter
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              Valve literally runs a marketplace that allows people to sell their skins for cash.

              This is like playing for tokens that the store across the street will conveniently purchase from you.

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              Trading cards and gambling addiction have been studied for years. TCGs may not function the same as a slot machine, but it does trigger the same thing in your brain.

              And that is what’s dangerous.

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              You’re right. TCGs with blind draw boosters are also bad. I didn’t complain about Pokemon cards back in 2000 because I was a child and didn’t comprehend that that was what I was doing. I definitely stopped partaking in Magic: The Gathering as an adult though when I realized it was a neverending gambling treadmill. Today I frequent fighting game locals that are kept afloat by Yu Gi Oh gambling addicts who fill the trash cans with booster wrappers as they go back to the counter over and over again to buy more packs.

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              So those cards have been around forever, and no one complained about them.

              There have definitely been complaints about gambling in relation to collectible cards. I don’t think anything has come of them in legal terms, but many complaints have been voiced.

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          Many would say so. Wizards of the Coast, the makers of Magic the Gathering, have worked very hard at balancing the two sides of the coin. On one side, they design cards such that power levels determine the demand (and thus price) for rarer cards on the resale market, and on the other they argue that the cards have no intrinsic value so that buying packs can’t count as gambling since there’s technically no expected profit for the buyers.

    • @Mango
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      Why is it a problem?

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        Because society has deemed gambling a problem requiring regulation. These things exist outside that regulation while being psychology the same.

        Also, gambling addiction has the highest rate of suicide of all addictions. And I think we should be trying to lower the amount of people that kill themselves.

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          I’ve never given two shits about what society has decided about my psychology. It’s nobody’s place to decide for me. If someone wants to kill themselves, let them. Help them even.

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            I’ve bee there I can assure you…
            No
            My depression took over I did something stupid I would have hurt my loved ones.

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              You play your character. I’ll play mine. If you play my character, I’ll kill both of them.

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    If Valve didn’t have this dosh stream, they would make more single player games. Simple as.

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      Apart from exploiting gambling addicts and you not really owning most games, Valve are rather consumer friendly. Or at least they appear to be because their competitors are even worse.

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        • @LwL
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          Given human nature I find it hard to blame rich people for using their money on themselves. We need laws to change (aka much, much higher taxes)

          Someone’s perspective on what’s an appropriate standard of living changes with what they’re used to. That’s just how the human brain works. I constantly hear people that make the same or more than me, that live in the same country as me in an area with similar cost of living, complain about how little money they have, while I feel like I have all I really need and more. They just consider different things as “necessary”.

          Is it incredibly disconnected to consider owning even one yacht as anything close to necessary? Absolutely. But anything you want, your brain will take it for granted once you get it and make you want even more.

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              I don’t thinks that is greed actually, Gabe gaining more and more money is greed but spend that wealth in random shit is just like people do, if you have billions the random shit you can buy is more pricy.

              Fuck billionaire anyway

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                  Billionares creating politics and buying politicians so they can continue to be rich is greed totally, but unless yatch is a scheme to avoid taxes that I don’t know they buying it is like me buying toys to put on my desk in a large scale.

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          No he can fuck right of, nobody should ever own that much. I was saying Valve is consumer friendly, relatively speaking.

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