Didn’t GNU project start because of a printer?

  • @Dabundis
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    521 year ago

    If you’re like me and only print something once or twice a year, check whether you can print at your local library. It may cost a few cents per sheet, but I’d sooner give my library a dollar than give a company like HP a penny

    • @[email protected]
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      81 year ago

      I’ve been going to an office supplies shop for ~15 years. Even that has become mostly unnecessary as people accept signed PDFs.

      • @[email protected]
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        21 year ago

        Sadly not my postal service (Post). It could be so simple, the counter clerks do have a printer. That’s really the only thing i have to print.

  • @ohwhatfollyisman
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    401 year ago

    and our long term aim should be to make printers go the way of the fax machine.

    • @glimse
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      121 year ago

      Unlike fax, printers weren’t completely superceded by computers and the Internet. They’ll still be useful for decades or more

      • @ohwhatfollyisman
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        51 year ago

        i dunno. i genuinely can’t remember the last thing i had to print out. maybe some expense claim forms in 2019 before the pandemic accelerated paperless processes? can’t think of any after that.

        it’s not all that far-fetched a notion.

        • @glimse
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          21 year ago

          I mean I only use my own printer once a year at most but plenty of other people still have to print things personally and professionally for various reasons. Many printed things can be replaced by technology but not everything. Fax was just a way to get information from one place to another - every single part of what it does is done better and easier with email and other tech

      • @gnate
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        31 year ago

        Unfortunately, I still access to a fax, and have trouble finding it. (Some sort of security-by-obscurity method that the medical world clings to.)

        • @glimse
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          21 year ago

          There’s a few industries that cling to it for that (weak) reason but it’s obsolete as soon as they let go

          • @gnate
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            21 year ago

            Yep, wishing and hoping.

      • @[email protected]
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        1 year ago

        I know of at least two professionals who make their notes with a Remarkable to pdf. Personal printers can go away.

        • @glimse
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          11 year ago

          Oh damn well if 2 people are doing it in your industry, printers must be useless to everyone!

          When I worked in the field I carried a laptop but still mostly worked off of paper. Paper-sized ectronics are pretty useless on ladders and plans are too hard to read on a phone. Paper can also fold and go in a pocket

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            You missunderstood, one is a psychiatrist, the other a social-something. I just say it’s a thing already.

            No, i don’t see how paper is a neccesity in your examples. And i did work in a company for a while, creating software for phones/tablets/notebooks for exatly those usecases, optimizing workflows in industry. Especially plans can be vastly more useful in digital form, look up IFC format.

            • @glimse
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              11 year ago

              You don’t see how paper would be significantly easier to use when you’re on top of a ladder splicing wires?

              Or how it might be preferable to a touch screen on a dirty construction site?

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                11 year ago

                And i did work in a company for a while, creating software for phones/tablets/notebooks for exatly those usecases, optimizing workflows in industry. Especially plans can be vastly more useful in digital form, look up IFC format.

                No, they don’t. And they won’t, unless they work on a dirty construction site on top of a ladder wearing protective gloves themselves. Or have to actually use plans.

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                And i did work in a company for a while, creating software for phones/tablets/notebooks for exatly those usecases, optimizing workflows in industry. Especially plans can be vastly more useful in digital form, look up IFC format.

                No, they don’t. And they won’t, unless they work on a dirty construction site on top of a ladder wearing protective gloves themselves. Or have to actually use plans.

  • Dr. Wesker
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    HP has sucked for decades now, because of this kind of business mindset.

    For now, I only buy Brother printers.

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      My Brother HL-2040 is coming up on 20 years old and still prints just fine. I’m shocked by how little effort it takes to maintain

  • @rustyfish
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    221 year ago

    Alright. Go for it. I’m just not gonna buy your shit. I am exited to see how this will end for you.

    • @EuroNutellaMan
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      Probably pretty well given some companies and people will be some silly little tech sluts for the convenience of not looking up better alternatives for 10 minutes, and likely paying a bit more upfront.

      That said I hope there’s gonna be some printer piracy

      • @Anticorp
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        It seems that no matter how awful an idea is these days, it always pays off for the companies. Consumers really need to pull their heads out of their assholes.

        • @EuroNutellaMan
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          31 year ago

          good luck with it. IMO we need better legislation.

      • @shalafi
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        01 year ago

        Then let those idiots pay. Not seeing the problem.

        • @EuroNutellaMan
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          21 year ago

          the problem is that it hurts us too as competitors see that and decide to cash in on it.

    • ares35
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      51 year ago

      it will probably ‘end’ pretty well for them. you’d be surprised at how many home users just ‘go with it’ because they don’t know any better… and a lot of businesses only buy ‘genuine’ consumables anyway.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 year ago

        They listen to the convincing guy at the electronics store who gets provisions for pushing shitty printers

  • @Laughbone
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    161 year ago

    Brother is still making some bad ass printers, just got a nice laser color printer from them.

    • @bisby
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      91 year ago

      And with brother there is a “ignore low toner warning” option that lets you keep printing until the toner is actually gone.

      • @Anticorp
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        51 year ago

        Our Brother laser printer just ran out of toner for the 2nd time in 12+ years. We bought a new toner cartridge for $12 that will last us another 5+ years.

  • @[email protected]
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    81 year ago

    We really need Foss software for printers, specially for mainstream machines so that majority can afford a less scamy product.

  • @notannpc
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    61 year ago

    I mean…I already actively avoided HP like the plague that it is. But I can add this to the list of reasons why.

  • @[email protected]
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    41 year ago

    Can’t someone start an open-soruce printer with cheap ink to compete with this?

    I’m not a big believer in competition and the free market, but can’t they do SOMETHING? Just this once?

    • nickwitha_k (he/him)
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      21 year ago

      On my heap of projects for a while but I have ADHD so, there is a distinct possibility that I’ll never start or finish it.

    • @shalafi
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      11 year ago

      This is a perfect case of competition and the free market working. Mostly. (Read till the end.)

      HP is free to fuck their customers all they please. Customers are free to never be HP customers again.

      Brother is free to make a printer that beats the pants off HP. Consumers are free to purchase those instead.

      HP printers should be a self-resolving issue, but you can’t legislate consumer wisdom.

      I will point out some evil shit I’ve seen this week: Months ago, people were on here bitching about HP. “How hard is it to Google ‘hp printers’ and find a slew of people hating on them?!” And sure enough, I got a page full of pure HP rage.

      Tried that again this week, with verbatim results turned on and off, mostly top lists, HP ads and sunshine. Sure there are some visible complaints, but you would expect that someone, somewhere, is going to hate on any given product.

  • Dog
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    I’d so throw out my HP printer if it wasn’t my scanner. Edit: January 26th, 2024 9:17 AM EST I’d like to say I finally got a brother laser printer, but it doesn’t do scanning. I don’t use the HP printer for printing documents though.

  • ShadowRam
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    21 year ago

    They can’t lock down or do it with 3D Printers.

    WTF thinks you can do it with 2D?

    What a goof.