Just got out of the theater after watching Minus 1. Great movie imo. Between this one and Shin Godzilla we have some solid movies in recent years, and I’m already waiting for the next one.

Any thoughts from anyone else??

  • @jenny_ball
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    24 months ago

    shin was amazing. this one less so because they were super stingy on the action scenes. shin had incredible scenes. this one only had one great scene iirc

    • @YokozunaOP
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      4 months ago

      Idk, every scene with Godzilla himself had me pretty immersed, from the intro scene to the iconic picking up of the train as well as ending it all had their good moments. Even in terms of storyline that didn’t feature the Kaiju, by Godzilla movie standards, it was pretty good. The protagonist was just a broken shell by the end of it, tormented by his dishonor in the war as well as his helplessness against the Kajiu and living with it for years.

      Also, seeing the prototype Japanese plane was really cool, I’m going to do some research on it and see what I can dig up if it was a real thing.

      The one thing about these movies is not that it’s just a Godzilla flick, it’s a reflection on human nature - it’s easy to say “where godzilla” because I do it all the time but when presented with a decently crafted setting and story it really all comes together with the tension of a looming threat of destruction that you really can’t do anything to prevent it.

      • @[email protected]
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        24 months ago

        You’re on the money, Yokozuna. Godzilla movies can live or die on their human story, and this was done so well… The plane was real. Only two prototypes built and they never saw action, but they are apparently a bit of a fan-boy thing in Japan. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyushu_J7W_Shinden Unrelated, but Canada has one of these. A plane that never saw action that all the fan-boys fawn over. It was called the Avro Aero.

  • Alter_Id
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    24 months ago

    Well, I’m in the camp that will take and enjoy whatever Godzilla related productions that I can get (for the most part), but I still have a critical filter when it comes to anything. I think my bias trends toward giving extra points to something that isn’t afraid to add something unique into the franchise that we haven’t seen before; so I’ve been liking the Reiwa stuff as whole (including the animes/singular point) more than some fans seem to on balance.

    Between Shin and Minus 1 I definitely preferred Shin. I think Minus 1 was very well done, and I understand why so many people are giving a positive response too it (though I do think some of it is a tad overblown; it’s not the best movie in the franchise). A few critiques I had of it have to deal with the fact that it really seems to hit it’s beats. This is both a strength and a flaw as far as I see it. There were a few instances where I knew how something would play out before it happened on screen (very far in advance in one instance). The way it hits those beats though seems more similar to Hollywood from 20-30 years ago though (when it was still open to making decent movies) instead of current Hollywood where every script is run though the sieve of maximal focus group approval. In effect, the beats meet what can cause fulfilment of emotional engagement as opposed to what will land and keep the most American audience butts in the seats. It was predictable but substantive rather that vapid spectacle.

    There were also a couple of instances where things didn’t make sense enough to pull me out of the viewing experience. Not that Godzilla movies need to make sense, because were dealing with giant monsters here after all, but more in the “the physics don’t work here” and the “this is so clearly a deus ex machina that I can’t ignore it” capacity.

    All that said, those are just the critiques. I think there’s a lot about it that works toward the fact it had as broad appeal as it did where as my ideal Godzilla movie likely wouldn’t have been enjoyed as much by as many people as Minus 1 achieved. And there are certainly things that it brought into the franchise that were unique, e.g. being essentially a period drama, the deeply developed human story line, the convincing performances, etc. I saw the sentiment that it’s perhaps the best introductory film for someone who hasn’t been previously interested in the franchise, and I tend agree with that I think.

    As far as the next movie… I’ll enjoy it like I enjoy every Godzilla movie, but I’m hoping that this is Wingard’s last. I thought there were some mistakes with Godzilla vs Kong, and with what I’ve seen so far of GxK I am not seeing anything to convince me that there’s going to be any course correction, rather, I think it looks like he’s going further down the wrong path. I won’t go into specifics here (I’ve typed enough already). I did really enjoy the Monarch: Legacy of Monsters series though. I love some of the lore exposition they developed through the season. I hope they keep going with it.

    • @YokozunaOP
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      14 months ago

      Great comment, thanks for the effort I appreciate it!

      In regards to hitting its beats, I totally understand. There were a few things I called in the movie as well while watching it and while it wasn’t really a bad thing, it was just cliche at best so definitely not the best it could have been.