• @stanleytweedleEnglish
    17•3 months ago

    I’m a little torn on the idea of UBI but it seems like these small scale experiments are kind of pointless.

    If everyone in an entire society\nation has UBI we might start to see how having a safety net effects choices in aggregate. But if only one group in a nation gets it I don’t think the groups that don’t are really fair ‘controls’ because both groups will effect each other’s choices and options in unpredictable ways. Bad analogy but kind of like testing medicine on one half of a person and using the other half as a control group- if the disease effects the whole body the test is kinda meaningless.

    • Sentient LoomEnglish
      11•3 months ago

      There’s data that can come from these smaller tests. If the results have been good then maybe it’s time to scale up.

      • bane_killgrind
        12•3 months ago

        Ford government didn’t allow that data to get collected. Every time there is a test, quality of life and market participation improve. Every time.

        But that means individuals aren’t desperate, which they should be or something.

  • @Chip_Rat
    2•3 months ago

    Regardless of if you feel UBI is necessary or pointless, this group of people were selected and offered it for a set period of time. Then the Ford government promised them they would not cancel it. Then they cancelled it. It should be treated the same as any other business or employment contract not fulfilled. These people made significant life changes under the presumption that they would have those years of stable income, and then they were tossed out the door.

    If you are one of the people who thought it was a waste of money from the start, it’s an even bigger waste once the court grants them the rest of their cash and we get no data on how UBI could/couldn’t work.