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‘There are no gays in Russia’
Now we know why.
There are many gays in northern Siberia, though.
Another reason why Republicans love Russia…
It’s an eastern orthodox mindset that crosses the borders in that area.
Some hate just transcends cultures.
Republicans don’t by default have anything against gays. Some do, but it’s far from most.
I’m sure it’s just a complete coincidence then that republicans fought against marriage equality and adoption for same sex couples.
Because they see ‘marriage’ as a christian description of matrimony between man and woman
Ah, so you can exclude gays. And that means:
Republicans don’t by default have anything against gays.
Because hey, every time they do everything against gays there’s an excuse! There’s been loads and loads of excuses over the years, but hey, they really don’t have anything against gays!
Jeez, done critical thinking would be good.
And they are wrong because this is America, not a Christian theocracy.
I’m not a Christian. I’m Jewish and an atheist. My wife is also an atheist. We’re married. By your excuse for Republicans, we aren’t.
I don’t see how that makes sense, unless you’re also a woman. And even then, I really like ben shapiro’s approach of ‘it’s not the governments business to decide who gets to marry who’.
Because we did not get married based on any Christian tradition.
Neither does anyone else.
Marriage is a civil ceremony and America is a secular nation.
Because they see ‘marriage’ as a christian description of matrimony between man and woman
I guess it depends on if it’s described as christian matrimony between man and woman
Yeah, so connect the dots bud
I was on their side when the debates around it reached their peak, but I don’t misunderstand homosexuality as unnatural or gays as mentally ill. In my mind it was about semantics, but I’ve since realized how that could be perceived as homophobic.
Unless you were advocating for a legally equivalent alternative to marriage just with a different name for people who do not fit your incredibly narrow requirements for marriage, how exactly can you claim you weren’t trying to discriminate against people?
That is the conclusion I eventually came to as well.
Character growth, good. For the future telling people they don’t get to have legal rights because of your book is discrimination and the problem.
And I see modern “Christians” as deplorable but that doesn’t mean I get to strip them of all their rights.
Then they should demand that the state gets the fuck out of any marriage business. Unless they don’t believe in the separation of church and state, that is.
That was ben shapiro’s opinion on the matter too
Does he usually express it whenever gay marriage doesn’t form part of the discussion?
I don’t listen to him enough to answer that
Somehow, I doubt his voting reflects that
*Gestures broadly
Then they should stop voting for the people that do.
Haha, so they’re just complicit.
I’m sure you’re quick to chime in with “not all cops” too.
Denying HIV medication is such a malignant display. How does one convince themselves that this is the right course?
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“He got what he deserved because of his name” is really not the takeaway here.
So there’s a state prosecuting gay people, and a person named after that state is getting prosecuted for being gay. If you can’t see a fat irony here, you’re 100% immune to it.
Also, there’s no single word about blaming, merely an observation. Don’t put words from your head into other people’s mouth.
Seeing the irony and saying someone got what they bargained for are two different things. Only the latter is victim-blaming, which is what was done.
Call a doctor, make sure you get your immunity certificate in order.
Do you think that sort of trolling comment is going to help you here? Because you’re already on thin ice for saying a queer person deserves to be persecuted for being queer because of their username.
Primo, on what thin ice? Over what?
Secondo, I very much enjoy watching when people are arguing over remarks they made up instead of grasping the essence of what an opponent says. I challenge you to point where I said what you said I said.
You don’t know how lucky you are, boy
I apologize for ruining this post by deleting the previous post because it gave me my first laugh of the morning.
All I can say now is… you had to be there. Sorry.
No you
Just for your information, but Russia hasn’t been part of the USSR for over 30 years now. Also, Putin’s Russia is extremely different to the USSR, in that it is now ruled by far-right religious fanatics. I don’t think that would fit well into the USSR.
Just for your information, but Russia hasn’t been part of the USSR for over 30 years now.
No shit? Maybe you should tell that to “USSRboy”? Might want to inform Kreml too because they keep cosplaying as the USSR with their red stars everywhere and eg. reestablishing the Leningrad Military District – Leningrad hasn’t existed in 30 years either, it’s been St. Petersburg.
Also, Putin’s Russia is extremely different to the USSR, in that it is now ruled by far-right religious fanatics. I don’t think that would fit well into the USSR.
You have an extremely idealized picture of what the USSR was, which seems to be a common theme with people who didn’t either have to live in it (especially the non-Russian ones) or next to it. Russia was the one running the show, and nothing of substance has really changed about Russian political culture in hundreds of years – during the USSR their rhetoric was of course different, but the incredible brutality and complete disregard for the lives of non-Russians and even Russians was still there, as was the persecution of minorities
I’m from an Eastern European country that was USSR aligned and part of the Warsaw Pact. I don’t have an idealized image of the USSR, nor of the West. I just find it hilarious how people cling to anti USSR messages when there’s plenty of actual stuff to criticize about today’s Russia.
Are you a fan of Gattsu by any chance? That’s the closest I’ve gotten to a first hand modern experience.
I have no idea what Gattsu is
Same shit different era.**
I’m from an Eastern European country that was USSR aligned and part of the Warsaw Pact.
Then you really haven’t been paying attention if you think the modern Russia isn’t up to essentially the same bullshit that they were during USSR times, just packaged up in different rhetoric.
The reason why people even brought up USSR is because, newsflash, the dude’s nickname is USSRboy. Can you deduce why somebody would sarcastically say that they got what they bargained for when they got arrested? I’ll give you 3 guesses.
I’ve been paying lots of attention. I don’t need a westerner to tell me what to think about the place where I’m from. Based on your post history you’re Finnish. I don’t need your sense of superiority here. I know very well what I’m talking about, and you are entitled to disagree with that, but do not go on ad hominem attacks. If your points are so easy to understand and bring across, then do suit yourself and start going into the details already. Starting from my original point of criticism, do tell me how far-right religious lunatics would’ve fit into the USSR political class.
So jailing and murdering political dissidents, agressive imperialism, extensive propaganda that paints a completely distorted view of what the state is doing, having a small and rich ruling class, russification of minorities etc. are completely different from what was going on during the USSR? Religion is the only new part here, and even that is surface-level only as it always is.
Leningrad hasn’t existed in 30 years either, it’s been St. Petersburg.
Well there’s the Leningrad oblast
Oh yeah true, I forgot about that! Although frankly it seems like it’s just a part of Russia’s USSR cosplay, just one that’s been going on for longer, where the Leningrad Military District was just re-established this year
In practice USSR was fascist since Stalin came to power. Argue all you want here, but the only difference was social hierarchy. On paper. As sold to common folk. In practice, since Stalin, a rigid hierarchy was established and enforced. It had a name, Nomenclature.
USSR was authoritarian - one guy run the show since Stalin.
Ultranationalist- soviet vs rest of the world. Argue till you are blue, but soviets its just a different name for the nation concept.
Centralized autocracy. People did not rule jack shit.
Militarism - they sure do love their parades.
Forcible suppression of opposition.
Belief in natural social hierarchy. Nomenclature is one thing and the same as current day oligarchy. People were trained to uphold it.
Hell, equality in USSR was also worth jack shit. In the 90s russia opened archives. Guess what, georgian soviets were sent first to the meat grinder. Prime example Battle of Berlin.
And for fuck sake. USSR forced other countries into their system. Suppressed culture, enforce russian language. That is ultranationalism.
Also, hello. We as a group of people have a mortal enemy. That mortal enemy is ever present, weak, but always encroaching. Ever endangering us.
If I have to spell it out, it is a staple of fascism.
Just for your information, USSR in 80s ran operation Denver - a massive disinformation campaign to plant a belief that aids was created in USA laboratories. You, my pedigree chum, should go home and do your homework.
WHOOOOSH!
USSRboy sounds like a nickname for someone who enjoys Sino-Soviet cooperation propaganda posters a little too much
All the more power to him though.
Russia wouldn’t have to do this if NATO wasn’t being so aggressively pro-gay 😤
One would have to live under rock to not expect anything bad happening when living life this way openly in Russia. Not that it’s justified what authorities do, it isn’t
bro, he really don’t know how USSR treated gay people ‘-’
Being gay in Russia needs balls of iron, far more than any western cowboy has.
