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That’s a lot of ecstasy.
It’s gonna be a fun night followed by a hard, sleepy day
Looks more like a few hours of cramping body and soul followed by 3 days of emotional hangover
Ehhhhh so this was in 2000. Your standard ecstasy pill (we’re assuming they’re not pipers; these don’t look shiny and they’re not shaped or outpressed) have between 70mg MDMA and 120mg (if they’re absolute fire.)
This would be about 400mg of MDMA total. While that is quite a lot, you’re not going to have a horrible time—I just wouldn’t do it in public because you WILL be a chattering mess. It’ll still feel amazing, though.
Source: oldhead, last time I rolled it was a total of about 450mg but spread out over hours and I was absolutely not in public, just writing naked with my partner)
I was gonna add “these days” but didn’t
Oh GOD I fully agree in that case. Rolls nowadays have up to 300-400mg in a single pill (sounds like you already know that, but I’m just saying this for context in case another reader doesn’t)
That’d be like eating a gram or more of Molly at once, and THAT is for sure not safe and not a good time.
Drained
She gonna need some water
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe ecstacy is actually dehydrating. Dancing at a rave for hours on end without drinking anything is though.
Just like SSRI’s, Ecstasy does interfere with your hypothalamus and temperature regulation. So, small energy expenditures creat oversized responses.
You would still sweat heavily doing more than lying down with a fan blowing on you.
Yeah, another part of the problem is that you cannot tell that you are hyperthermic and or dehydrated.
Thats how you get the people that dance all night and then just die, or go comatose or pass out.
Your body stops telling you wow, i am way too hot and wow, i really need water.
Sort of like that rare condition where you literally cannot feel pain, and children with it will break their fingers because it feels weird.
Eh, not double stacked so it’s ok.
AKSHULLY that wasn’t a thing in the 2000s, just marketing hype. Rolls back then had between 70 and 120mg of MDMA, and 120 is a basal amount you want to take if you fully want to get rolling.
Now it’s TOTALLY a thing, tons of rolls have 300-400mg in a single pill now. It’s insanity.
Worse than that, that one website dance something that would test pills found that a huge percentage of the “ecstasy” people took didn’t contain MDMA. A surprising amount didn’t even contain illegal drugs. Just over the counter speed.
Curious. When I last looked (quite a while ago) most of the tested pills were MDMA, with many containing caffeine as well. I guess it varies a lot over time.
Dancesafe.org was it! I’m going back over 20 years to the late 90’s early 2000’s. I can’t comment on the state of ecstasy today, I haven’t rolled in over 20 years.
Yah, there were TONS of pipers going around (BZP/TFMPP) when that was legal to buy. I’ve never had one because I could instantly tell when a pill was a piper (shiny, hard, outpress, or shaped.) I could also tell by the taste if I licked it. Headache city apparently.
Damn that is insane. My skin would slink off if I did 300+
Recently did 400-450 each with my partner in a night but over the course of a couple hours… definitely not something to do in public hahaha. We were naked, quivering piles of hedonism, writhing in bed for hours in absolute insane, well, ecstasy. It’s aptly named, that’s for sure.
For once, got incredible sleep afterwards and felt awesome the next day! Thank you, sleep.
This is how the girl from that Mitsubishi eclipse car commercial started her night
Rockstar used to go pretty hard.
This game, appropriately, is where I learned there was such a thing as uppers and downers.
It’s likely they were trying to get the news riled up so they could cause a moral outrage that would attract attention to the game.
All right I’ll ask the dumb question here, what am I looking at? From what I can tell they are tiny empty bags
Those type of bags are usually used to hold illicit substances, and typically only bought by small-time drug dealers.
And board game players!
And electronics hobbyists!
And toenail collectors!
And my sword!
board game baggies usually have a tiny hole in them, to let the air out when you’re packing the game away. not so great if you’re muleing some molly to your weekly game of Wingspan
awww youve never bought street powders thats nice
The Bags that spare buttons come in, or how I used to get all my drugs.
When the marketing agency jumps the shark
I miss that era. Companies didn’t mind a bit of edginess and weren’t afraid to market to adults. The console culture itself also isn’t what it used to be.
These days, gaming consoles all need to be safe enough for five year olds to play on them. And it’s caused everything to be just too bland and safe, both in marketing and the console itself. Can’t really have things like Xbox 360 Uno with the live camera feed and no moderation. Or the wholly uncensored COD lobbies.
I like the part between your two paragraphs. The early gaming era was really shitty when it came to diversity and… It’s not even representation, it’s not having to play sluts or princesses or whatever.
The now-era is all AAA all-the-same sanitised stuff, nothing to do with lack of edginess. Just corporate safety in mainstream appeal. Currently, indie games are where the experiments and interesting ideas happen.
I’m certainly not going to say you’re wrong on that first part. I’ve been online since 1996. At that time, the internet was the domain of white, heterosexual, nerdy, generally well educated guys. And me being a white, heterosexual, nerdy, well educated guy… well… going online felt like coming home. Those were my people. I still really miss those days.
But I also know that the experience of someone not like me would’ve been wildly different. I learned a bajillion slurs on COD lobbies after all. It’s a good thing that more people now feel welcome online, as it led to platform growth and functionality that we otherwise wouldn’t have had if it was just ‘my kind of people’.
The current safe, sanitised, gentrified gaming sphere also has benefits: COD lobbies these days are very pleasant by comparison. You even have to sign a code of conduct to get on multiplayer. It feels more welcoming, less hostile. Of course, companies certainly have been financially incentivized to attract as wide an audience as possible. For example, the very first GTA game sold about 6 million copies. GTA V has sold 200 million. And with ever-increasing development budgets, you can’t afford to cater to a niche, you want to cast as wide a net as possible to recoup those costs.
“the internet was the domain of white, heterosexual, nerdy, generally well educated guys. And me being a white, heterosexual, nerdy, well educated guy… well… going online felt like coming home. Those were my people”
Thank you for putting it so clearly. Yes, it is completely valid to long for a time where the own niche was the in-group. As someone who’s been on the web from early on but a woman, it wasn’t really “my people”. It was never a safe space for me, but I totally understand where you are coming from. It’s great to be on the side of the “default”.
The only spaces I genuinely miss are phpbb forums. I honestly believe they are better than reddit, or the fediverse for that matter. Smaller interest groups have a self selection mechanism and better moderation. I think they could still foster a great environment today that would welcome nerdy educated people on a shared interest without specifically speaking to just one type of educated nerds.
I miss forums as well, and I’m actually moving back to them. Back in the early 2000’s, I visited like a dozen forums each day. I was a member of like three watch forums, a camera forum, a Star Trek forum, some gaming forums and others. Just ‘doing the rounds’ kept you busy for a while. People also were insanely knowledgeable on those niche forums, and they all had their own specific culture and flavor to them.
Places like a niche subreddit are… OK at best. They are convenient and easy to visit, but don’t tend to have the level of knowledge and discourse that I generally enjoy. You also run the risk of your sub getting ruined by people who are into the wrong aspects of your particular hobby. For example, on a watch FORUM, the discussions are about design, mechanical features, history, photography, how to repair, etc. etc. On the subreddit, a lot of posts tended to be drive-by posters who ‘found a watch and wanted to know what it’s worth’. or ‘is this fake’. The subreddit didn’t curb that, so eventually I and many others just stopped going there. It was basically too easy for people to post there just because, well, they could. Whereas on an actual watch forum, you can do a bit stricter moderation and the registration requirement weeds out low effort posting.
Some consider that ‘gatekeeping’, but I see it as a valid way of protecting one’s chosen community.
It was basically too easy for people to post there just because, well, they could.
I expect the difference you’re describing was partly due to moderation (and lack thereof), but also partly due to the barrier to entry imposed by the forum signup process.
Unfortunately, the signup barrier cuts both ways: Despite loving high-quality discussion forums, I seldom bother participating in them these days, mainly because jumping through signup/captcha/email-validation hoops and then having to maintain yet another set of credentials for yet another site, forever, became too much hassle once I had more than a couple dozen. (I have hundreds, so I’m very reluctant to add to the pile.)
OpenID managed to solve a good deal of that hassle, but it’s mostly forgotten these days. I think well-moderated federated services have the potential to solve it completely, though. Here’s hoping.
Bro here in Brazil, we have slurs in the millions since gaming took of in the 90s
The number reaches the Brazillions
The number reaches the Brazillions
hahaha ;D
I used to play Rune Quake with a guy on MPlayer named ‘svfox’ and he was from Brazil - this was 96/97. I miss him sometimes; we managed to lock down games of Rune Quake and CTF we played so well together.
I don’t think I’ve met any Brazilians back in those days; (online) gaming is really expensive there from what I heard, right?
One fun thing in the old COD lobbies was always to teach others slurs and general cursing in your language. I learned how to curse folks out in like 50 languages. Each country also has its own unique style of cursing. We Dutch really like to incorporate diseases for example.
Oh yeah, I was so bewildered when I read “kanker, ga lopen!” for the first time!
Classic perkele dyas
A lot were in tibia, RO, Mu, AOE and other classics like Ultima, xeminos and lineage
Wild times but no voice chat so that was nice 👍
Yeah, gaming (and tech in general) going mainstream brought with it both the good and the bad. More diversity, but also more corporate consolidation.
It’s the eternal pendulum swinging between slut and saint, whore and Madonna. AAA games are afraid of sexuality, and one can see why when looking back on how Lara Croft was portrayed in magazines. We need games that, when appropriate, acknowledge sexuality in a way that reflects its role in people’s lives.
didnt bladurs gate 3 just come out and has sex scenes?
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this isn’t marketing to adults. it’s marketing to teenage boys.
They were pretty sexist tho.
I feel like it means: we are not like Nintendo, we make video games for adults (and children who want to play like adults).
Also, our games are as good as drugs.
Sony’s version of the classic Sega “Genesis does what Nintendon’t”
Man, everyone was in on it during this era, even Nintendo
Everything reminds me of her…
Not much can top the 3DFX VooDoo graphics card boxes.
Love it.
“Hey, you know what would be a good way to advertise our system? Let’s just give children nightmares for about 40 seconds and then splash our logo on the screen at the end.”
It worked because I still remember it now ;)
I think most ads for consoles in the early 2000s were like that, at least for ps1, ps2 and the original xbox. Not necessarily nightmare fuel, just “weird” stuff unrelated to the console or games.
Watching this gave me Aphex Twin vibes. Then I discovered it was directed by Chris Cunningham. So yeah, that’s why
Oh wow, that explains a lot!
PS2 is retro now? Damn, getting old really does sneak up on you.
Ps3 is starting to be referenced as retro now…
That one does hurt
But also, people wondered why our generation loved taking drugs and being weird fucks…
When ‘next gen’ (eg. PS5) becomes the new ‘current gen’, then the old ‘last gen’ becomes retro.
I found my Green game boy Pocket and saw the 1989-1996 copyright.
It looks so pristine. 😭😭😭
It has been for a long time.
I mean, it’s over 24 years old. it’s been allowed to drink beer for 8 years.
Cognitively and logically, I understand.
But emotionally, it’s just another one of those little reminders of the passage of time that hits unexpectedly hard.
I think it’s because my only memories of it are from when I was young. Quake 3 Arena was released almost a year before the PS2, but I’ve never really stopped playing it, and still sometimes get in-person LAN parties together to play it. It feels just as old as I am, and I associate it with good memories from every age.
But I haven’t touched or even thought about a PS2 in decades. So when it suddenly jumps to the front of my mind, only old memories come with it. Then you start to think about the friends you played it with, and everything that’s happened to you all between them and now. Kids, marriages, divorces, houses, bankruptcies, jobs earned and lost, deaths, etc… Some are doing great, some not so great, but most you just don’t know because you’ve lost contact.
So yeah, it seems silly on its face, but sometimes random thing just pull you into the past unexpectedly, putting the present and the path between them both in stark contrast. This just happened to be one for me this time.
Aww damn, I definitely thought it was real and in some video game magazine
Can someone make a version of this photo, but its acetaminophen and the girl is just up-aged to how old she’d be now?
thyroid medication
90s SEGA was the OG of this, we need 90s SEGA back
Coffee?
Tea?
SEGA!!!
“Only Happy When it Rains” automatically begins playing in head
Wait, is that actually Garbage? That was the first thing that popped into my head when I saw the picture. That Bond music video she did was awesome. World is Not Enough.
I find this funny, since I used to hide drugs like mushrooms inside consoles. I figured it was the one place literally no one would think to look. Just unscrewed them, put a baggie inside in one of those empty spaces (there’s always a spot), and put the case back together.
There were some bizarre ads from around the late 90s to early 00s.
The Dreamcast Barber comes to mind.
“Live in your world. Play in ours.”
I still have my megatokyo sticker, “Live in your world. Die in ours.” Probably couldn’t be that edgy anymore, but I still like it.
