• @[email protected]
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    Why are we saying “engineers” when we know full well there isn’t a single qualified engineer in there that thinks this bullshit is a good idea?

    This is management being management.

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      It’s a bad idea to assume everyone in the field is of a similar mindset and philosophy. There are a LOT of people who genuinely want to make the world worse and see things like adblocking as piracy.

      In fact, I’ve met people who hate the concept of Open Source and want things to be closer to creative fields. They’re shortsighted of course, greedy. But the basis doesn’t change the outcome. Yes, it’s blatantly their desires to “own” a piece of code the same way musicians often own a movie’s score and get licensing fees on them that led that path. But they still walked it and they still exist and they’re still out there, hoping for the day they get to go against you.

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      I dunno, I’ve met a few engineers that fancied themselves as being smarter than everyone else. Their ideas were the only ones that held merit due to their belief that they were ‘enlightened’, so to speak.

      The vast majority I’ve met are normal, well-adjusted human beings that think the ‘smart’ ones are full of it. Specifically, they they can’t seem to see the forest for the trees.

    • ErC
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      But they will still implement it. Does it really matter if they didn’t come up with the idea if they are the people that will build it up?

      • @[email protected]
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        The world collectively decided that just following orders wasn’t excuse for doing something wrong. While this might be quite as cut and dry a situation, it is definitely partially the fault of those who implement this. Engineers aren’t the type of laborers that risk homelessness and suffering when quitting a job typically. They have the privilege of withholding their labor that most Americans don’t. They choose not to exercise it, which leaves two options, indifference, or support, of these implementations.

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    • Atemu
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      The browser could just refuse to attest if you’ve got an ad blocker enabled. That’s the whole point of this.

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        • @[email protected]
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          Actually, they are controlling your graphics driver. If you’re using a custom driver you’ll fail attestation because you have untrusted code in your kernel and/or browser process. I expect this will also fail if you’re using an old driver with known vulnerabilities that allow you to use your own device in unexpected ways.

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          • WasPentalive
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            Ads need to be blocked at a higher level. Get as many as possible to vow to never buy a thing advertised on a webpage. You see an ad, that thing advertised gets a no-buy stamp.

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              That’s not how people’s minds work, even if you managed to convince everyone to do it.

            • @[email protected]
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              210 months ago

              I’m pretty sure overlay mode was always about performance, not preventing screenshots.

            • Amju Wolf
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              110 months ago

              It’s still very much a thing and works fairly well to protect high quality DRM content. People forgot it’s a thing because a regular person is rarely in a situation where it would prevent them from doing something.

        • Paradoxvoid
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          The major point is not so much whether your browser could block ads - your point regarding the browser ultimately having to render each element is true. The problem is that if the web server gets a request from an unattested browser (such as an old version, or one that has an ad blocker installed), it will refuse to serve any content, not just ads.

          Regular people will inevitably get frustrated and we end up in scenarios like “<x browser>is bad, it doesn’t work with <y site>” because of this proposal, and more and more people end up switching until you have to use a compliant (Chromium-based) browser to do anything at all on the internet, and Google’s strangehold on web standards solidifies even further.

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          It’s possible but not particularly plausible.

  • @MeshPotato
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    Louis posted a video on a much bigger problem that Google has with ads. These campaigns seem to completely neglect.

    https://youtu.be/hWJrsz_cmas

    In short: it’s fake views. That’s were advertisers pay for viewed ads, but the view happened to a bot. Ad block at least doesn’t discourage advertisers since they don’t pay for unviewed ads.

  • @[email protected]
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    So these assh… are going to pay the wasted data from metered connections? they’ll pay me money? they can also guarantee that malware is not spread anymore via ad networks? sure sure.

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    It’s been evident big tech wants their own corporate intranet of sorts. Perhaps we’re seeing the beginnings of a great net split. That’s if there’s enough movement to forge on with a free (as in libre) standards regardless of what big tech is doing on their own.

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    I’ll just use AI to filter out ads in future. Too bad advertisement needs to be recognizable, so AI can.