Please no book spoilers in this thread. This thread can contain TV spoilers up to season 2 episode 3.

Air Date: July 28th 2023

  • @InverseParallax
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    81 year ago

    It was slightly better than the other 2 episodes this season. Still a complete mess, but this was the least painful episode so far this season.

  • @bandwidthcrisis
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    51 year ago

    Anyone else thinking of the “Footprints in the sand” poem?

    I’m finding myself caring less about the plot making sense or if the writers understand distances in space. If the show is going to focus on being fun and big on spectacle, I can enjoy that.

    • IzzyOP
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      41 year ago

      If you can separate the tv series from the book then it is like a completely unrelated sci fi series that is not great, but not quite as terrible as it would be otherwise. I haven’t finished the book so I don’t have a conflict here, but I’ve had this issue with other things I’ve seen that have been adapted.

    • @InverseParallax
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      21 year ago

      I didn’t hate season 1. I didn’t love it, but it was watchable outside Gaal who is one of the worst characters I’ve ever seen in media.

      But this season started off truly unwatchable, mostly because of Gaal again, it’s like they’re picking settings to give her as much of a chance to hurt me with her writing and acting as they can, and refuse to offer me the mercy of a veil.

      But it’s foundation, and it has Lee pace and Jared Harris so I have to suffer through, apparently I offended our version of the emperor somehow.

  • IzzyOP
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    41 year ago

    It seems hard to believe this Mallow guy is somehow going to get from where he is now to where they saw him in their visions of the future. I’m sure they will avert this crises so we will never find out what that timeline would have looked like anyway. We are inching closer to these stories colliding. The Empires story is now extended by this general taking a trip to the Foundation so at least the Empire and Foundation stories will collide soon.

    Based on what we have seen I can’t see how the Foundation can put up any kind of resistance. As for the 2nd Foundation I suppose Gaal is going to go there now and found it with new Hari? Is the 1st Foundation just a kind of ruse to hide the real 2nd Foundation? Kind of like an encrypted container inside another one to make you think you’ve unlocked its secrets?

    • ThePowerOfGeek
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      1 year ago

      Wait, that rascal trader-thief was the psycho guy that Gaal saw in her visions? I thought that was what they said at first, but given the massive probably difference I then assumed I was wrong.

      Edit: nevermind. I was getting him mixed up with the Mule, which he definitely isn’t.

      The way I understand the first and second foundation, the first is the primary one that has Empire’s focus and starts the process, then when it gets corrupted it gets replaced by the second one.

      • IzzyOP
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        21 year ago

        nevermind. I was getting him mixed up with the Mule, which he definitely isn’t.

        I’m not sure I even understand who Mule is. Is Mallow not the guy that supposedly overthrows the Empire and everything else? If not then I have no idea what they even want Mallow for or how his name came up in Hari Seldon’s psychohistory math thing.

  • @bandwidthcrisis
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    21 year ago

    There was speculation last season about Empire’s “your extended family and everyone you know will be killed” just being a tale to make the prisoner suffer. This episode suggests that maybe that was true. Or it could just be that the newer emporers are getting soft.