• Alphane MoonOPM
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    42 days ago

    I wonder what the pricing will be like for laptops with mid range 5000 series Nvidia dGPUs. The cheapest mobile RTX 5070 Ti laptop SKU from this OEM is €2,000.

    High-end iGPUs are looking more and more appealing (you also get better battery life and a less bulky build).

    • @[email protected]
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      31 day ago

      DGPUs are also awful with modern standby. My RTX 4090 laptop gets almost the same battery life on as it does in “sleep” because the GPU won’t fully shut off. It’s so bad it just goes into hibernation after about 20 minutes.

      It’s much better than my last laptop which would just overheat and crash when I tried putting it in sleep then in my backpack.

      • Alphane MoonOPM
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        21 day ago

        Yeah, laptops dGPUs seems to never get more than a few hours (never say ~8 hours) on a battery even if you don’t actively use the dGPU.

        It’s a sacrifice I’ve been willing to make, but for my next laptop I am seriously considering a high end AMD iGPU.

        • @[email protected]
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          21 day ago

          8+ hours is actually feasible if you get a machine with a big battery. It’s just the gamer laptops have terribly small batteries since they figure you’ll never use them, and their CPUs aren’t tuned for efficiency. If I’m just puttering around I can easily get 6-8 hours of battery life on my i9 4090 equipped ThinkPad P1. And my friend with an Asus G14 can easily get 10+, but that’s with an AMD CPU.

          But if anything even thinks of turning on my dGPU my battery life dies. And once it turns on it doesn’t want to fully turn back off until I reboot.

          • Alphane MoonOPM
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            21 day ago

            Aren’t laptop batteries limited to 99 watthours? That creates a significant ceiling.

            10+ is really good. I like the design of the Asus G14 as well (although I only go for 17 inch screens).

            • @[email protected]
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              21 day ago

              100 is the max for going on any airplane in the US. But you can always bring a USB battery bank to get more runtime.

              17" laptops are almost always tuned for “fuck battery life”, but since a lot of 15" laptops grew into 16" ones they can still get reasonable battery life. If my P1 had an AMD CPU I’m sure it would get some incredible battery life.

    • BombOmOm
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      32 days ago

      Yeah, last laptop I bought I specifically wanted an iGPU, for the exact reasons you mention. Also makes the computer a good deal cheaper.

      (Most) Gaming is for the desktop.

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        2 days ago

        (Most) Gaming is for the desktop.

        Honestly, a lot of the PC games I play a lot of aren’t all that 3D-intensive.

        Depends on the person, of course.

        I am a little surprised that there aren’t more games explicitly aimed at battery-powered environments. Like, have options to not do animations or redraw unless required, stuff like that.

        • Alphane MoonOPM
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          21 day ago

          It also depends on the genre. Some genres like economic strategy games that include a lot of charts/menus are better played at a desk with a large monitor.

          That being said, there is a huge selection of games that works great on a laptop too (especially if you have a 17 inch screen).