Summary
70 decapitated bodies were found in a Protestant church in Kasanga, Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), reportedly the work of the Allied Democratic Forces (ADF), an Islamist group linked to ISIS.
The victims were believed to have been taken hostage before being executed.
Authorities are investigating, and international Christian organizations have condemned the attack.
The DRC has faced decades of conflict, with violence surging due to armed groups like ADF and M23.
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The victims were believed to have been taken hostage before being executed.
They have to say that, otherwise it’s assumed to be another Christian cult.
Nobody will hear about this because we live inside a racist imperial bubble.
Imagine if this happened to people with pale skin.
we are literally hearing about it right now
Conservatives might still pick it up and run with the “Christian” part while completely ignoring the racial aspect. They love being able to play the persecution card in the news.
I was going to make a poor taste joke that obviously this is a lie by the IDF, since there seems to be a cadre of posters here who can’t accept that any bad behavior by a person in the name of Islam is [anything other than]
justWestern or Zionist propaganda.I see others have beat me to the idea.
Edited after technocrit’s response because a re-read showed my meaning was reversed.
Fuck off islamophobe.
Fuck off with your gaslighting, Islam is an expansionary monotheistic religion. It doesn’t tolerate different groups.
You can be a Muslim and a good person. You can’t be a devoted Muslim and a good person. As being devoted to Islam requires to enforce Islam on society.
It’s not Naziphobia, it’s not Islamophobia, it’s zero tolerance for the intolerant.
Much like Christian behavior has been modified over the centuries due to constraints from society, I think Muslim behavior has been modified in many nations. There is enough open to interpretation in holy books that you can still be “devoted” and not push for enforcement. Even some majority-Muslim countries that have strict rules for Muslims do not enforce the same rules on people of other faiths.
So while I appreciate that the “Islamophobia” accusation doesn’t hold water, I think you cast too wide a net even on devout Muslims.
It may be due to different understanding of levels of devotion. My personal cut-off is where you put your religion ahead of society and the self fulfillment of others.
For example, academic work shows that the majority of Muslims in Wien places Islam above Austrian law. The Muslim community also has the highest fertility rate. Meaning that using public funds that meant to support childbearing, the Muslim community will overgrow the natives and eventually force Islam on them. This is not Islamophobia, this the outcome of the current trends to our best of our knowledge.
It becomes Islamophobia when you lay the blame on personal Humans that happen to be Muslims. As it’s not 100% of Muslims, but around 55-75% (depends on the work).
This ( the placing of Islam above national-law ) is why you can’t give citizenship to anybody who holds that ANY regime outrank’s the country, be it some other country’s, or some religion’s.
EITHER they accept that the law of the land is THE law of the land,
XOR they aren’t citizens.
Failure to understand & accept that is … functionally … treason, now.
NO ideology has the “right” to highjack our countries.
We either enforce that, XOR we accommodate our own future-decapitations. ( of our countries )
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First generation of immigrants are usually cool people.
Problem starts when the second doesn’t integrate well into society and tries hard to connect with their other cultural background. When that other background is Islam, they become extremists Muslims.
I know that Wien has a long history with Turkish invasion, but you appear to be skirting the line for Islamophobia or just general Xenophobia. I’d rather not have you defending my comments here, as I think it muddies the water.
it literally is their Quran’s law that they have to stone-to-death any person who left Islam, & won’t return to it in 3 days.
As Germany has noticed, immigrants from specific Muslim countries are … iirc … 100,000x as likely as normal Germans to gang-rape.
It was that kind of statistic that caused me to understand that having the same penalty for the same crime,
when specific subcultures are MASSIVELY more-likely to commit specific crimes, is incompetence/insanity:
the correction for the crime needs to be calibrated both to the crime AND to the probability-of-committing-it.
Notice that I’m not saying that Muslims are the only religion which has culture-specific crimes…
there was a book, & movie, some years ago, about the Catholic molestation-by-priests regime, where they protected the molesters…
an insight given in that work ( it was the Boston Globe who cracked the actual case, iirc ) is that when celibacy is required of people who never grew-up-in-real-relationship, it retards their growing-up, & significantly-increases their pedophelia…
I don’t care what the “religion” or “ideology” or “prejudice” in-question is!
IF a specific demographic is massively-more-likely to be committing any specific kind of crime, THEN the deterrent/correction has to be jacked to counterbalance that, adaptively.
IF that means that Republican Electorates get massively-higher sentencing for corruption, then So Be It, see?
Make the correction correct the societal-problems that different cultures create, & no pretending that no culture creates any problems, no matter how “politically incorrect” actual-fact is, nowadays, on either side of the political spectrum.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2015-003081_EN.html for evidence that I’m not just pushing racism, but instead identifying actual-fact/actual-behavior.
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Not the case. I understand that the vast majority of Muslims have no desire to murder infidels or apostates. However, it would be ignorant to deny that there are extremist groups who use the religion to justify violence against Christians, Jews, Druze, Hindus, and other Muslim sect. Maybe their leaders are just using religion as a tool for their political aims, but probably some of them are ardent believers too.
What’s your personal stance on that?
Edit: Argh. I now know what it would feel like to be retweeted by Steve Bannon.
You are being gaslighted, it’s not a phobia. You can’t tolerate the intolerate.
There are many former-Muslims who have identified that Islam is literally committed to exterminating all other religions…
that it’s intrinsic to the Quran++ ( Hadiths are the rest of the stuff called? I think so )
Exactly as Nietsche ( sorry sp ) identified that from any culture like Roman culture, Christianity is a slave-culture, programming people to be passive, Islam is identified by former-Muslims ( there used to be a former-Muslim subreddit, btw, which was eye-opening, & there are books by both Muslims & former-Muslims on this kind of thing ) as programming its people to exterminate all competition to Islam.
To me, it is just another example of a religion putting itself in G-D’s place: they ALL do it!
“It isn’t G-D that is The Only Way™, no! it is OUR™ Religion Regime™ that is The Only Way!!”
so, they put their church in G-D’s place, & ignore that that’s blasphemy.
Try finding some fundamentalist Christianity that doesn’t do that…
Try finding some fundamentalist Judaism that doesn’t do that…
Try ALL the Abrahamic-religion variants, ALL the Dharmic-religion variants, try ALL the fundamentalist atheisms, it’s simply one of ideology’s fundamental-methods.
I just picked a couple of posts in the exmuslim subreddit, & the 2nd one I picked was this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/1iutyrg/nah_this_cant_be_real/
Try watching that video, & try reconsiling it with sanity/civil-tolerance…
It’s rabid-prejudice, committed to exterminating all others, as blatent as can be…
It ISN’T just a different Christianity, or Judaism…
( Zionism’s openly working to murder-off all Palestians shows it to be fundamentally-related to the religion in that video, if one accepts the behavior which IDF’s murders brag about on their socials, & then get international-prosecutions for…
I expect the Republicans in the US to be doing the same kind of “jihading” within very-few years, against all sane people: it’s a plague, NOT-limited to any specific ideology/religion!
It’s a substitute-for considered-reasoning: ideological-rabies, in all cases, just as the Christian Inquisition was, in its holocausting, throughout its territories, for centuries… )
the world’s infected with ideological-rabies, & its showing-up through “religions”, AND “politics”, AND other-ideologies, everywhere, & it’s only going to get intenser, & intenser, as it tries to break, forever, considered-reasoning from our world, so it can “win” & rampage/tantrum our planet without any restriction…
& we have to accept that particular cultures … cannot tolerate anybody-else’s lives.
XOR we make ourselves accessories to their crimes, including, for some ideologies, genocidings.
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Inexcusable “journalism”.
Anybody read that fucking thing or just giving them another pass for being US media and a lie headline?
The earliest source I could find is this one: https://fr.apanews.net/news/rdc-plus-de-70-civils-retrouves-decapites-dans-une-eglise/
Seems to be a local news agency. There are some other outlets corroborating the story, though I can’t find any evidence (e.g. images/witness accounts) other than these stories.
This Newsweek article is a bit shit because it’s using quotes from right-wing internet trolls about this, which is quite poor when it comes to quality standards. But I’m not so sure the premise of the article is a lie, it could very well have happened, and I don’t have evidence to the contrary.
Are you saying this didn’t happen?
Are you saying that article is a source of what happened?
How come they can’t even link this? It’s their main source.
