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Didn’t this dude post another video of him ditching Firefox like 2 years ago?
use another fork if you want, but you don’t have to advertise it. Let Mozilla do what it must to survive and we can use the forks or change the privacy options. I like this myself: https://github.com/celenityy/Phoenix
For what? There’s not a better option, everything else is based on Chromium which is just moving to supporting Google, and also just removed v2 extensions which cripples what you can do with the browser.
I don’t think anyone should ditch Firefox at this point.
As for my own opinion - I fully agree not to ditch it right now, unless you are super privacy-concerned.
If you are, and if you think Mozilla is a lost cause, then please, as a community, get together and organise a body that is financially and legally able to carry a FLOSS browser with its own web engine. Not saying this to be snarky or as a gotcha, I am just somewhat irritated by some people saying to ditch Firefox to then say the alternative is a Firefox fork with a team way too small to handle what is needed to maintain a browser project going into the future, if they couldn’t build on the upstream code.
Because if you don’t organise such an organisation, including eventually financially giving to that group if you have the resources, Mozilla will remain in the ambivalent position of trying to balance markets and ideals, with less and less of a bargaining chip on the ‘ideals’ side - and the web will continue to be further and further dominated by non-free software trying to make web standards more proprietary.
There is the brand new Servo, but I don’t think it will be in par in the near future.
There are also WebKit based browsers.
This if you want to avoid gecko/firefox based browsers at all.
WaterFox seems pretty good.
Also, as far as chromium goes, it’s trivial to use literally any other chromium-based browser rather than Google’s. Even Microsoft Edge hasn’t killed Manifest v2 (yet…not actually sure if they plan to do it or not).
But the more people use chrome based stuff the easier it gets for google to dictate what is possible and what isn’t by (not) updating the Foss repos for chrome forks
WaterFox seems pretty good.
Lowercase “f,” just like in “Firefox.” And yes it is; I’ve been on Waterfox for years!
I will say, it definitely doesn’t feel as polished as major browsers. You have to go to a backend “about” page to switch between user profiles. You literally can’t set a webpage of your choice to open when you open a new tab (new window, yes, but not new tab, which is even more perplexing). It still has a separate search bar instead of the unified bar other browsers have had for a decade (this can be fixed, though it’s hard to find how to do it). But it’s easily good enough to switch to if Firefox is gonna enshitify.
Hmm, I guess I got around those issues:
- I don’t use user profiles but rather the container tabs.
- I use an AutoHotkey script that redirects all new windows and tabs to a local note-taking screen.
- The omnibar was easy enough to spot in its settings. That sure was a bit of a blast from the past to see, though!
Nice try Google.
Didn’t watch the video but what possibly they can be switching to? Epiphany? qutebrowser? Emacs?
Edit: Finally had time to watch it. TLDR he’s switching to a Firefox fork which I was assuming it was entirely something else just looking at the title. Well, at least we have forks. However for the base code, Firefox should continue to live, otherwise we won’t have forks either. He raised some good points though. Mozilla does really look like they want to go for-profit way.
Terminal
Worth keeping an eye on: Zen, based on Firefox, getting quite close to Arc
I’ve been enjoying Zen, I use iceraven on my phone. I’m eagerly awaiting a Linux release of Orion.
