• @slipperydippery
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    182 years ago

    Do security updates for a minimum of 5 years next

    • @WhoRoger
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      212 years ago

      Or just open source the drivers and we’ll have all the updates forever.

    • BombOmOm
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      102 years ago

      Really pumped that one of the major things making phones obsolete after a few years will just be…gone!

  • @WhoRoger
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    Omfg

    The EU is good for something.

    Tho it’s still a shame that it’s not the customers demand that is making this happen.

    Mandatary memory card support and physical SIM forever next.

      • @WhoRoger
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        102 years ago

        So they can sell you another phone sooner.

        • YellowGas
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          12 years ago

          Now they can sell you overpriced serial-locked gimped batteries because where else are you going to buy them? I’m not entirely convinced that manufacturers weren’t behind this. Who wouldn’t want users to have to continually come back to them for replaceable items?

          • @WhoRoger
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            True, this directive can yet become toothless if the available batteries are overpriced and gimped. However they already do it anyway, so at the very least one won’t need to take the entire phone apart to change them.

            And some manufacturers are already relatively friendlier to battery replacement, so those will probably continue to do so. Apple and the like will surely kick you every step of the way to a new battery, but Nokia or Motorola maybe not.

      • Nick
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        12 years ago

        To make the phones “waterproof” which is funny because even tho phones are water “waterproof” manufactures won’t warrenty them out if there’s water damage. Doesn’t make much sense to me.

  • @zczgws
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    92 years ago

    Apple’s gonna def overcharge for the replacements

  • @[email protected]
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    72 years ago

    With how capable modern mobile CPUs are phones could really last a long time without feeling “so last generation” very fast. So the battery really often is the bottleneck and not having it be replaceable would really just be planned obsolescence with extra steps. It’s good to hear some good news once in a while.

    • @WhoRoger
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      12 years ago

      I’ll cum if I see a good phone with a keyboard again

    • @2ZR_FXE
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      52 years ago

      The European Parliament also caused a major headache for all super small and wearables manufacturers too.

      Well… It seems device manufacturers should have thought of that before starting shipping glued electronics 😊

      No one likes to pay €80+ to replace their phone’s battery. Most of the times people just throw their devices away and buy new ones.

      Or, for example, people just throw their €100+ airpods to the trash just because the battery isn’t “replaceable”.

      Totally agree with EU’s position.

  • GaryPonderosa
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    -132 years ago

    Headline from 2028: Why You phone Dies When It Gets Wet

      • GaryPonderosa
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        22 years ago

        Waterproofing was more difficult with replaceable batteries. It was a feature you paid extra for.

        • @2ZR_FXE
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          12 years ago

          Was it?

          So many years have passed since that phone came out.

          Manufacturers had more than enough time to do something right besides just being water resistant.

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    • UltraHamster64
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      But there was phones from 2010s with removable batteries and water protection.

      And sony have some water resistant phones with removable batteries now

      • @WhoRoger
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        22 years ago

        Sony has removable batteries? I knew they still have memory cards… Gotta look into that

      • GaryPonderosa
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        -42 years ago

        It’s more expensive to waterproof a phone with a removable battery. Yes, there were phones from the 2010s that were waterproof and had removable batteries, but that was a feature you had to pay extra for.

        • @[email protected]
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          02 years ago

          And phones are currently the most expensive they’ve ever been, even adjusted to inflation. Waterproofing with replacable batteries would barely dent the price, especially after a few years.

          • GaryPonderosa
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            I highly doubt that they’re the most expensive they’ve ever been. iPhones and flagship phones may well be because the companies that make them know the morons that buy them will pay $1000 for a status symbol, but you can purchase new smartphones for under $200. Considering the original iPhone cost triple that, your claim seems ludicrous.

            • @[email protected]
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              I’m referring to the average - obviously there’ll always be decentbudget phones with an unbeatable price-to-performance ratio.

              Here’s a source for my claim - I couldn’t find any better ones after a few minutes.

              According to this:

              The ASP [average selling price] of the North American smartphone market reached its historic Q1 record high of US$790 this year.

              Yes, the low sale of budget phones certainly contributes, however, the market for premium phones grew by 33% from last year.

              With more and more people having more and more expensive phones, how will having replacable batteries while being waterproof drive up the price?

              • GaryPonderosa
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                The average is meaningless here.

                I sell a phone for 1 billion dollars. That raises the average price to a million dollars. If you go to any store and grab 100 phones at random, their pricing will not reflect the average.

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                • @[email protected]
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                  22 years ago

                  That’s why the market share of premium phones increasing is especially relevant, as I said at the bottom. For instance, 45% of Apple’s sales are in this sector and Apple is the most popular phome brand in the US. Even their “budget” lineup starts at $430.

                  None of the premium phones will face a price increase because of this regulation, this much should be obvious. And since cutting edge technology quickly becomes cheaper, after two or three generations budget phones will also have replacable batteries while being waterproof while remaining as affordable as today.

                  Something that isn’t mentioned either, the cost of simply replacing batteries is much, much lower than purchasing an entirely new phone, for both you and the environment.

    • @WhoRoger
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      52 years ago

      Well, you should put the cover back on